From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 20:38:28 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:38:28 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] TesT 8 Message-ID: <6C16B729-426B-4245-AA46-1629955863C8@phantom.com> doT --> . From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 20:47:36 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:47:36 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] TesT 9 Message-ID: <3E33FFA2-628E-4AEA-8663-7DA911D86C74@phantom.com> bl1p From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 20:51:11 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] TesT . Message-ID: . doT(s) . . . . From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 21:07:49 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 21:07:49 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] TesT Message-ID: bl1p From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 22:32:23 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:32:23 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] Last tesT Message-ID: <8158EDA0-F496-4D4A-A3D0-D01AFC9BEB27@phantom.com> . . . d0tS . . . From digital at phantom.com Sat Sep 8 23:01:07 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:01:07 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] Ignition Message-ID: As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. 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When they rushed down to >the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. >The pickpocket had actually used the stolen hand phone to text "hubby" >in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes >he had withdrawn all the money from the bank account. > Moral of the lesson: Do not disclose the relationship between you >and the people in your contact list. > Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, sweetheart, Dad, Mom, >etc.......and very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked thru >texts, CONFIRM by calling back. Also, when you're being texted by >friends or family to meet them somewhere, be sure to call back to >confirm that the message came from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about >going places to meet "family and friends" who text you. PLEASE PASS THIS >ON. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070908/5d9c6af7/attachment.html From vector620022002 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 8 23:49:11 2007 From: vector620022002 at yahoo.com (Vector Vector) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <813032.15740.qm@web31609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We help with you ibogaine addiction :) .:vector:. --- Nick Sandberg wrote: > Hi Matthew and others, > > God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe > anyone could > write such drivel and pass themselves off as understanding psychiatry > or > being fit to treat addiction! I wrote detox-narconon.org this > > "Hi there, I read your page > www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html > I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story for nearly 10 > years > and work as a therapist here in the UK, and what you're written is > utterly > mis-informed and makes little sense from a psychoanalytical > perspective. > Ibogaine is no magic bullet for sure, and the reputation it has > developed > over the years for potentially being so has been exploited by some > proponents and caused it to be sought after by those with addiction > issues > who are seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for > the > wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is, > imo, > utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack of > understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the treatment of > addiction. Are you interested in removing it or altering it so that > it at > least demonstrates a modicum of awareness? > Regards > Nick Sandberg > etc, etc " > > BTW, I'm loving this - > http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331 > Currently #2 > in the google.video daily chart with 35,000 views daily and it's > chalked up > nearly 2.5million since release online in late Jun 07. > > BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did Patrick > not > pay the electric bill? > > Nick > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] > Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 > To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com > Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; > mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; > knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; > jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > > Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page > kinda > says what they know about ibogaine: > > > > Click here - how to fully recover from the effect of iboga > addiction > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM > To: HSLotsof at aol.com > Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; > simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; > ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; > Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; > captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; > freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; > wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > > > they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I > think this > site must have some link the cult of scientology. The have links to > L Ron > hubbards books on it anyway. > > http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From vector620022002 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 8 23:51:30 2007 From: vector620022002 at yahoo.com (Vector Vector) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ibogaine] awesome Message-ID: <966464.17895.qm@web31602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Patrick and all the MindVox crew, thank you! Holy shit my message shows up instantly no more hour long lag time :) That's awesome, welcome back I was going through withdrawl! :) One question, how do I unsubscribe? The people here bother me. .:vector:. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From Dana at phantom.com Sun Sep 9 10:15:42 2007 From: Dana at phantom.com (Dana Beal) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 10:15:42 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's L. Ron Hubbard, alright. 1950's level mis-info. Fat around the bloodvessels! I suggest everyone on the list read Dorit Ron and Patricia H. Janak "GDNF and Addiction"; Reviews in the Neurosciences (2005) Dao-Yao He, Nancy McGough, Ajay Ravindranathan, Jerome Jeanblanc, Marian Logrip, Khanhky Phamluong, Patricia Janak and Dorit Ron "Glial Cell Line-Derived Neurotropic Factor Mediates the Desirable Actions of the Anti-Addiction Drug Ibogaine against Alcohol Consumption", Journal of Neuro-Science (January, 2005) Dao-Yao He and Dorit Ron "Autoregulation of glial cell line-derived neurotropic factor expression: implications for the long-lasting actions of the anti-addiction drug, Ibogaine" The FASAEB Journal (October 3, 2006). Note that the date on these is 2005, not 1955. I have never seen any indication that hypnosis can act at a cellular level to switch on a neurotropin (growth factor). However, scientologists are not alone in their confusion of the effects of other psychedelics such as LSD with ibo. In this they are in the good company of Strassman and Doblin, who want desperately to believe that their favorite drug--be it LSD or MDMA--must of course have all the benefits of the iboga alkaloids--because iboga is no fun, and they're not into anything they don't take themselves. The antidote for utter bullshit is good science. Dana/cnw On Sep 8, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote: > Hi Matthew and others, > > God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe > anyone could write such drivel and pass themselves off as > understanding psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote > detox-narconon.org this > > "Hi there, I read your page www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine- > effects.html I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story > for nearly 10 years and work as a therapist here in the UK, and > what you're written is utterly mis-informed and makes little sense > from a psychoanalytical perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet > for sure, and the reputation it has developed over the years for > potentially being so has been exploited by some proponents and > caused it to be sought after by those with addiction issues who are > seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for the > wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is, > imo, utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack > of understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the > treatment of addiction. Are you interested in removing it or > altering it so that it at least demonstrates a modicum of awareness? > Regards > Nick Sandberg > etc, etc " > > BTW, I'm loving this - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay? > docid=5547481422995115331 Currently #2 in the google.video daily > chart with 35,000 views daily and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million > since release online in late Jun 07. > > BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did > Patrick not pay the electric bill? > > Nick > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] > Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 > To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com > Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; > ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; > Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; > captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; > vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; > jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page > kinda says what they know about ibogaine: > > > > Click here ? how to fully recover from the effect of iboga addiction > > > > > > From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM > To: HSLotsof at aol.com > Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; > simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; > mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; > knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; > freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; > wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > > > they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I > think this site must have some link the cult of scientology. The > have links to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway. > > http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070909/06595016/attachment.htm From doug_fraser at microcinema.com Sun Sep 9 14:11:27 2007 From: doug_fraser at microcinema.com (Douglas Fraser) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:11:27 +0100 Subject: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46E4374F.1000805@microcinema.com> well, I for one would love to have some Ecstasy flashbacks.... for those of us who don't subscribe to these expensive publications, would you mind writing a brief synopsis? thanks doug Dana Beal wrote: > It's L. Ron Hubbard, alright. 1950's level mis-info. Fat around the > bloodvessels! I suggest everyone on the list read > > Dorit Ron and Patricia H. Janak "GDNF and Addiction"; Reviews in the > Neurosciences (2005) > > Dao-Yao He, Nancy McGough, Ajay Ravindranathan, Jerome Jeanblanc, Marian > Logrip, Khanhky Phamluong, Patricia Janak and Dorit Ron "Glial Cell > Line-Derived Neurotropic Factor Mediates the Desirable Actions of the > Anti-Addiction Drug Ibogaine against Alcohol Consumption", Journal of > Neuro-Science (January, 2005) > > Dao-Yao He and Dorit Ron "Autoregulation of glial cell line-derived > neurotropic factor expression: implications for the long-lasting actions > of the anti-addiction drug, Ibogaine" The FASAEB Journal (October 3, 2006). > > Note that the date on these is 2005, not 1955. > > I have never seen any indication that hypnosis can act at a cellular > level to switch on a neurotropin (growth factor). However, > scientologists are not alone in their confusion of the effects of other > psychedelics such as LSD with ibo. In this they are in the good company > of Strassman and Doblin, who want desperately to believe that their > favorite drug--be it LSD or MDMA--must of course have all the benefits > of the iboga alkaloids--because iboga is no fun, and they're not into > anything they don't take themselves. > > The antidote for utter bullshit is good science. > > Dana/cnw > > > > > > On Sep 8, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote: > >> Hi Matthew and others, >> >> God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe anyone >> could write such drivel and pass themselves off as understanding >> psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote detox-narconon.org >> this >> >> "Hi there, I read your page >> www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html I'm sorry, but I've been >> following the ibogaine story for nearly 10 years and work as a >> therapist here in the UK, and what you're written is utterly >> mis-informed and makes little sense from a psychoanalytical >> perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet for sure, and the reputation >> it has developed over the years for potentially being so has been >> exploited by some proponents and caused it to be sought after by those >> with addiction issues who are seeking an "easy way out." They're >> attracted to ibogaine for the wrong reasons. However to write >> fear-filled nonsense like this is, imo, utterly unprofessional and >> simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of basic >> principles in psychiatry and the treatment of addiction. Are you >> interested in removing it or altering it so that it at least >> demonstrates a modicum of awareness? >> Regards >> Nick Sandberg >> etc, etc " >> >> BTW, I'm loving this - >> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331 >> Currently #2 in the google.video daily chart with 35,000 views daily >> and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million since release online in late Jun >> 07. >> >> BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did Patrick >> not pay the electric bill? >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] >> Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 >> To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com >> Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; >> mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; >> knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; >> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; >> jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com >> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page >> >> Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page kinda >> says what they know about ibogaine: >> >> >> >> Click here ? how to fully recover from the effect of iboga addiction >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM >> To: HSLotsof at aol.com >> Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; >> simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; >> nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; >> slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; >> vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; >> jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com >> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page >> >> >> >> they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I think >> this site must have some link the cult of scientology. The have links >> to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway. >> >> http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html > From dana at phantom.com Sun Sep 9 14:54:37 2007 From: dana at phantom.com (Dana Beal) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 14:54:37 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page In-Reply-To: <46E4374F.1000805@microcinema.com> References: <46E4374F.1000805@microcinema.com> Message-ID: <571B60B4-9D24-46B9-AF5D-4936112D1561@phantom.com> They're on line. But I can send a PDF to anyone who wants one. Just ask. Dana/cnw On Sep 9, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Douglas Fraser wrote: > well, I for one would love to have some Ecstasy flashbacks.... > > for those of us who don't subscribe to these expensive publications, > would you mind writing a brief synopsis? > > thanks > doug > > > Dana Beal wrote: >> It's L. Ron Hubbard, alright. 1950's level mis-info. Fat around the >> bloodvessels! I suggest everyone on the list read >> >> Dorit Ron and Patricia H. Janak "GDNF and Addiction"; Reviews in the >> Neurosciences (2005) >> >> Dao-Yao He, Nancy McGough, Ajay Ravindranathan, Jerome Jeanblanc, >> Marian >> Logrip, Khanhky Phamluong, Patricia Janak and Dorit Ron "Glial >> Cell >> Line-Derived Neurotropic Factor Mediates the Desirable Actions of the >> Anti-Addiction Drug Ibogaine against Alcohol Consumption", Journal of >> Neuro-Science (January, 2005) >> >> Dao-Yao He and Dorit Ron "Autoregulation of glial cell line-derived >> neurotropic factor expression: implications for the long-lasting >> actions >> of the anti-addiction drug, Ibogaine" The FASAEB Journal (October >> 3, 2006). >> >> Note that the date on these is 2005, not 1955. >> >> I have never seen any indication that hypnosis can act at a cellular >> level to switch on a neurotropin (growth factor). However, >> scientologists are not alone in their confusion of the effects of >> other >> psychedelics such as LSD with ibo. In this they are in the good >> company >> of Strassman and Doblin, who want desperately to believe that their >> favorite drug--be it LSD or MDMA--must of course have all the >> benefits >> of the iboga alkaloids--because iboga is no fun, and they're not into >> anything they don't take themselves. >> >> The antidote for utter bullshit is good science. >> >> Dana/cnw >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote: >> >>> Hi Matthew and others, >>> >>> God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe >>> anyone >>> could write such drivel and pass themselves off as understanding >>> psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote detox- >>> narconon.org >>> this >>> >>> "Hi there, I read your page >>> www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html I'm sorry, but I've >>> been >>> following the ibogaine story for nearly 10 years and work as a >>> therapist here in the UK, and what you're written is utterly >>> mis-informed and makes little sense from a psychoanalytical >>> perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet for sure, and the >>> reputation >>> it has developed over the years for potentially being so has been >>> exploited by some proponents and caused it to be sought after by >>> those >>> with addiction issues who are seeking an "easy way out." They're >>> attracted to ibogaine for the wrong reasons. However to write >>> fear-filled nonsense like this is, imo, utterly unprofessional and >>> simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of basic >>> principles in psychiatry and the treatment of addiction. Are you >>> interested in removing it or altering it so that it at least >>> demonstrates a modicum of awareness? >>> Regards >>> Nick Sandberg >>> etc, etc " >>> >>> BTW, I'm loving this - >>> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331 >>> Currently #2 in the google.video daily chart with 35,000 views daily >>> and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million since release online in >>> late Jun >>> 07. >>> >>> BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did >>> Patrick >>> not pay the electric bill? >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] >>> Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 >>> To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com >>> Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; >>> ekkijdfg at gmx.de; >>> mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; >>> knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; >>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; >>> jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com >>> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page >>> >>> Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page >>> kinda >>> says what they know about ibogaine: >>> >>> >>> >>> Click here ? how to fully recover from the effect of iboga addiction >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM >>> To: HSLotsof at aol.com >>> Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; >>> simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; >>> nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; >>> slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; >>> vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; >>> jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com >>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page >>> >>> >>> >>> they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I think >>> this site must have some link the cult of scientology. The have >>> links >>> to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway. >>> >>> http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html >> > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- From Matt at ITSupport.net Sun Sep 9 17:46:17 2007 From: Matt at ITSupport.net (Matthew Shriver) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:46:17 -0600 Subject: [Ibogaine] FW: dogy ibogaine misinformation page Message-ID: <007401c7f32a$e019ed40$3201a8c0@bluefiashly> Hi Nick Thanks for the link. I think everyone in the world should see that movie. Very sobering. Matt _____ From: Nick Sandberg [mailto:nick227 at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:14 PM To: Matthew Shriver; 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page Hi Matthew and others, God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe anyone could write such drivel and pass themselves off as understanding psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote detox-narconon.org this "Hi there, I read your page www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story for nearly 10 years and work as a therapist here in the UK, and what you're written is utterly mis-informed and makes little sense from a psychoanalytical perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet for sure, and the reputation it has developed over the years for potentially being so has been exploited by some proponents and caused it to be sought after by those with addiction issues who are seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for the wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is, imo, utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the treatment of addiction. Are you interested in removing it or altering it so that it at least demonstrates a modicum of awareness? Regards Nick Sandberg etc, etc " BTW, I'm loving this - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331 Currently #2 in the google.video daily chart with 35,000 views daily and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million since release online in late Jun 07. BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did Patrick not pay the electric bill? Nick -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page kinda says what they know about ibogaine: Click here - how to fully recover from the effect of iboga addiction _____ From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM To: HSLotsof at aol.com Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I think this site must have some link the cult of scientology. The have links to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway. http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070909/070be0b3/attachment.htm From Matt at ITSupport.net Mon Sep 10 01:42:24 2007 From: Matt at ITSupport.net (Matthew Shriver) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:42:24 -0600 Subject: [Ibogaine] fair warning Message-ID: <007f01c7f36d$62dddb00$3201a8c0@bluefiashly> I was poking around on the mindvox site a little; following some of the links Patrick sent out and his threat to archive the ibogaine list online was realized. I know there was some discussion in the past from a friend of ours who's name started with a D about not wanting their name or email address linked with the material they posted in a publicly searchable format. Well now that has been done, although you do have to actually join the list before you can view the archive for whatever that is worth. However, the archive starts with the new incarnation of the list (I have no idea if Patrick plans to put up the old stuff). So if you do not want your email address and your name associated with the content of your posts, in a format that is available online, then you should refrain from posting or subscribe to the list with an appropriately considered email address. Personally I think you cannot have too much openness and honesty in your life. Although I do admit to certain things on this list that while technically illegal are not things I feel any shame or self-consciousness around. In fact I strongly suspect that those who would persecute me for the technical illegality of my actions would benefit enormously from more openness and honesty in their own lives and with their own consciences. I have noticed a curious thing recently. When I look deeply inside myself I see that no matter how hard I try and no matter what I do or don't do, I will always make mistakes. This may seem self evident but somehow today it strikes me as more significant. If I am to be truly honest with myself, I have in my nature the ability to do the most selfish, fucked up, greedy, sneaky-assed shit imaginable. And I know it first hand because some of it I have done. It is in my nature that I am capable of this. It is in my nature that I will sometimes behave this way despite my best efforts. I am less than perfect and always will be. I am flawed. I am human. But here is the curious thing that I mentioned. When I am in touch with this truth and I look at the actions of those around me whom I would judge in another frame of mind, I see that they are just like me. They are acting on their own inner flawed potential to commit error. They are experiencing their own imperfect human nature. And from this frame of mind, rather than judge them I feel tremendous compassion for them. I know first hand how painful it is to see that all of that yucky, immoral, even evil potential exists inside of me and my heart goes out to those who are being driven by it. I feel love for them and I hold out hope that they can shine that light of honesty and openness into their inner being and see what's truly there for themselves. I read an interesting quote recently but despite searching for it twice I can not find it again so I cannot say who it is from nor guarantee that I have it exactly right but it went a little something like this: "Those who are unable to recognize God will surely think it is the devil." Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070909/2d7013df/attachment.htm From vector620022002 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 03:35:22 2007 From: vector620022002 at yahoo.com (Vector Vector) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ibogaine] fair warning In-Reply-To: <00F53CBA-A856-4C3F-BCBB-4D953E434DFE@ITSupport.net> Message-ID: <268396.65275.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The archives for the old list were always accessible up until like 6 months ago when they were locked, I think because their old servers were overloaded but on the paranoid side what do I know, there are always stories about everything behind the scenes but anybody that signed on was able to access them up until then. Then there are peeps like me who have been here for 5 years downloading these messages to email. There have always been these huge announcements of how this is a public list. Away from the ibo and drugs side of the picture, there is a lot of talk in the hacker semi underground (I don't pretend to have any huge in's with the peeps who are doing anything), but I think after almost 10 years of being on idle, MindVox got funded somewhere and is opening again and at least half the tech crew are the usual collection of badasses MV always has, my cv, 'I've been arrested 10 times, the government threated to burn me at the stake and I only have 2 felony indictments!' The entire Mindvox rep is being discrete, at least in the past half the core people were all being.......... 'private' because of hacking or drugs or whatnot, but it looks like that same core group of people constantly hung out with every reporter in the world. Which makes them exactly not different at all from all the drug people here 'I need to be anonymous and quiet and nobody must know' so then why do you talk to any reporter who will stick a camera in your face and use your real name. Hacker underground, drug underground, shared psych profiles and motivations ;) Not that this is exactly the same mindset that really clueless people who post really deranged bullshit on this list over the years, with their real names attached to it, are in ;) I can forward some of the messages, this convo has taken place at least 50 times here before. One reason I agree with Patrick and Howard and think it would be great for all of it to be online, it's not like thousands of peeps don't already have some of the pieces in their 10GB free emailboxes, the problem is its all a bunch of fragments, it would be nice if Mindvox put it all online. I'm liking the new mail system a whole lot better then the old one so far, the interface is handy, if they do their whole mindvox coming back to life deal, I think you can look forward to alot more reporters landing here, which is great for ibogaine and really back to not being any different then what already happens here all the time anyway, but more in the background ;) I wrote a long message :) .:vector:. --- Matthew Shriver wrote: > I was poking around on the mindvox site a little; following some of > the links Patrick sent out and his threat to archive the ibogaine > list online was realized. I know there was some discussion in the > past from a friend of ours who?s name started with a D about not > wanting their name or email address linked with the material they > posted in a publicly searchable format. Well now that has been done, > > although you do have to actually join the list before you can view > the archive for whatever that is worth. However, the archive starts > > with the new incarnation of the list (I have no idea if Patrick plans > > to put up the old stuff). So if you do not want your email address > and your name associated with the content of your posts, in a format > > that is available online, then you should refrain from posting or > subscribe to the list with an appropriately considered email address. > > > > Personally I think you cannot have too much openness and honesty in > your life. Although I do admit to certain things on this list that > while technically illegal are not things I feel any shame or self- > consciousness around. In fact I strongly suspect that those who > would persecute me for the technical illegality of my actions would > benefit enormously from more openness and honesty in their own lives > > and with their own consciences. > > > > I have noticed a curious thing recently. When I look deeply inside > myself I see that no matter how hard I try and no matter what I do or > > don?t do, I will always make mistakes. This may seem self evident > but somehow today it strikes me as more significant. If I am to be > truly honest with myself, I have in my nature the ability to do the > most selfish, fucked up, greedy, sneaky-assed shit imaginable. And I > > know it first hand because some of it I have done. It is in my > nature that I am capable of this. It is in my nature that I will > sometimes behave this way despite my best efforts. I am less than > perfect and always will be. I am flawed. I am human. But here is > the curious thing that I mentioned. When I am in touch with this > truth and I look at the actions of those around me whom I would judge > > in another frame of mind, I see that they are just like me. They are > > acting on their own inner flawed potential to commit error. They are > > experiencing their own imperfect human nature. And from this frame > of mind, rather than judge them I feel tremendous compassion for > them. I know first hand how painful it is to see that all of that > yucky, immoral, even evil potential exists inside of me and my heart > > goes out to those who are being driven by it. I feel love for them > and I hold out hope that they can shine that light of honesty and > openness into their inner being and see what?s truly there for > themselves. > > > > I read an interesting quote recently but despite searching for it > twice I can not find it again so I cannot say who it is from nor > guarantee that I have it exactly right but it went a little something > > like this: ?Those who are unable to recognize God will surely think > > it is the devil.? > > > > Matt > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From wachtel at shani.net Mon Sep 10 05:15:50 2007 From: wachtel at shani.net (boaz) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:15:50 +0300 Subject: [Ibogaine] post Message-ID: <043601c7f38b$2e93a460$6702a8c0@4921daa6da32478> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070910/330c0564/attachment.htm From billjohnson6 at sympatico.ca Mon Sep 10 14:19:47 2007 From: billjohnson6 at sympatico.ca (Billy J) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:19:47 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] Help/my 3grams of HCL has beentaken hostage In-Reply-To: <001501c7e534$3c567e70$43620a18@home7a3ef6c9a7> Message-ID: Hello ibogaine Friends, and I am very oploligetic as to come back on-even though I have reicieve your every e-mail sent since my own last one, I have and am fughting the fight off getting and staying straight, I had purchased 3 grams about 1 year ago (is it still good) From Ethno Gardens In Barrie, Ont. Canada. However my plan has been to follow the instructions as per safe use and preacautions, using the right caring people around me, Yet here in Canada, Being an addict is worse than haveing Aids No offense to those wonderful people who how been infected by that horrible nighmare? My Heart is for your healing, As for me my wife has left me, because she sees me as a hopeless usser, my (Christian friends) LOL Donny J. especially who nevwer has stepped out of Gods saving grace is an axample of what I do not like you, be cause you did not stop using when I told you to stop. I had asked my wife give my Ibogaine over to him for safe keeping and he has now told me he does not know where it is?? says my wife has it and the I cannot get it. They are saying they are saving my life, that if I Have,faith I can move mountains. And for the most part I believe that, but, I am choosing to use ibogaine to help with my journey, I past it on to my wife and so at the decision time she could have, been apart of it, or so I had hoped. She is gone and so goes my ibogaine, I think if so of you good oeople coud send her e-mail the Subject line saying Ibogaine is O.K . For Bill I am on 115ml of Me and I and on 150of antidepressant She has given me the boot rightfully I Guess, because I just could not get the trusting people (under 4-$6000, all I could afford (was ihe actual HCL sealed). So I figured if I followed instructions in a peaceful environment will nothing to loud nor agnostic/or negative, even if they do not have the same comfidance in ibogaine as I do, I would just like for them to believe with me and to support the effort- they seem to want me to do all this cold turkey and be strong like the some miracles they have heard of, they never went through nothing like a 3rd time major effort to quite another 7x7 more serious struggle getting clean, These people can believe in raising the dead yet cannot believe in healing those that are sick around you, THEY KEEP PUTTING ME DOWN AND SAYING THINGS LIKE JUST STOP, IF YOU ARE SERIOUS, THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE PEOPLES WORLD CHURCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAMILTON ONTARIO, PETER SOMEBODY , AND IT WOULD APPEAR FAITH FROM THAT LITTLE CHUCRH IS SEEN, WHERE I LEARNED FAITH, CAME FROM THE HOLY BIBLE THIS IS SO LIKE A MINISTRY THAT LIKES TO TICKLE YOU EARS, BE CAFEULL BROTHERS AND SISTERS( I Know You Are Out There) many people in thes last times will tell you what ever you want to here in order to get into yo background) Please give me Some success stories to pass on to everyone, even send them direct to her or to her partner in this wandajohnson at sympatico.ca wanda.jessome at 3web.net There is To Be No Negative comments just loving information Please in order to Win then over to our side. They have been concerned also because of the occasional double dosing when I am feeling really down,also there have been times that I have used some valuim to try to get into a relaxing state. But I just can't hide it, The worst was when I really lost it is when I went out piping. She lost it-- Me Too I guess, I thought that was the only way I could fel good. Does anyone Out their think I have any hope at 44yrs and an 8 & 12 Year old at home a wife0 well (??) on paper still- and I want it to stay that way. OH I Hope you red this little story Lovig you as best I can Bill billjohnson6 at sympatico.ca .----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Daley" Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com To: Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:18:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.189]) by bay0-pamc1-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:34:27 -0700 Received: from toip29.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.31]) by tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070823033427.YLWE1657.tomts26-srv.bellnexxia.net at toip29.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:34:27 -0400 Received: from mindvox.com (HELO toip21.srvr.bell.ca) ([66.109.28.28]) by toip29.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2007 23:34:23 -0400 Received: from mindvox.com (HELO mail.mindvox.com) ([66.109.28.28]) by toip21.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2007 23:34:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 27294 invoked by uid 513); 22 Aug 2007 23:34:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 514); 22 Aug 2007 23:34:19 -0400 X-Message-Delivery: Vj0zLjQuMDt1cz0wO2k9MDtsPTA7YT0w X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jHbrYc5LYqqhIaMT1AXrT4JnFaMNTv4a4hv8xsZ9AbVUspKuWouIuuUH8Jnn15avXYbAk1y+uV1rA== Mailing-List: contact ibogaine-help at mindvox.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list ibogaine at mindvox.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=4.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: daleyjohn at comcast.net via tanelorn.mindvox.com X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(204.127.200.85):SA:0(-2.6/4.0):. Processed in 19.280842 secs Process 26925) References: <782255.47003.qm at web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Return-Path: ibogaine-return-31640-billjohnson6=sympatico.ca at mindvox.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2007 03:34:28.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[8250DA40:01C7E536] Thanks you folks who have answered my question. I think and feel that I like you guys and gals. ----- Original Message ----- From: simon loxton To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor Seems ethnogarden is out of HCL stock! Have not had time to keep track of all the threads, though things have been pretty quiet on this side of the ibogaine front, forum wise. Wish all of you the best though and will keep those that were interested in the new developments, which have been quite a process but will be very rewarding in the end. Full of new ideas in terms of making the ibogaine experience a more comfortable one Peace out Si. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Corcoran To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 August, 2007 5:01:57 PM Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor and because its less filling and tastes great!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:53:38 -0400 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor Hcl is the purest form of Ibogaine. Also there is extract, root bark, whole alkaloid and maybe some other forms I don't know about. People use Hcl because it is the best way to be precise in dosing. Peace Love and Freedom Randy On 8/22/07, ekki wrote: ibogaine comes in form of its crystalline hydrochloride salt (HCl) http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl?cat_id=78&pro_id=162 Am 22.08.2007 um 05:25 schrieb John Daley: Whay is hcl? ----- Original Message ----- From: matthew zielinski To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor hey there is a canadian company in barrie selling hcl....the name sliped my mind but ive ordered from them before and everything was alirght i live in toronto so if i can help let me know peace m,att -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Hadey < jimhadey3 at yahoo.com > Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Subject: [Ibogaine] Where can I buy Ibogaine HCL in Windsor Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Hi Everyone, I live in the Detroit area and it would not take much to cross over to Windsor Canada and buy some Ibogaine and get some sort of hotel room for a week. Severarl times I went to Windsor Ontario and went to the herb shops and none of them heard of it. Can anyone tell me where I can buy Ibogaine in Windsor, Ortario, Canada. Thanking you all in advance. - JIM -------------------------------------------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Zoom In And See The World Up Close With Live Maps /]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\ [%] Ibogaine List Commands: http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%] \]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/ Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month. From phillipfiuty at hotmail.com Mon Sep 10 17:29:06 2007 From: phillipfiuty at hotmail.com (Phillip Fiuty) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:29:06 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] Rock Star Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070910/e0a2a3a5/attachment.htm From peroki at nasa.la Mon Sep 10 20:02:20 2007 From: peroki at nasa.la (Peter Kirk) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:02:20 +0200 Subject: [Ibogaine] fair warning Message-ID: <1903.1189468940@nasa.la> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070911/70491f54/attachment.htm From digital at phantom.com Sun Sep 16 22:52:19 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:52:19 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] Ingnition - Iteration III Message-ID: Third pass, Everything should be alive at this poinT: ... As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to get over it, click the link: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down, and you're gone forever. ... The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day or three, then let us know. ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's arriving Any Minute Now. ... Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter how many times the information is contained within the message body; nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. Laters, Patrick ... p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe me drugZ or NOTHING! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Huh? http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 weeks... why don't you answer?: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... ... and : #10! To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! Seeya! From beatrizbrasil at netvigator.com Mon Sep 17 04:27:35 2007 From: beatrizbrasil at netvigator.com (Beatriz) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:27:35 +0800 Subject: [Ibogaine] test In-Reply-To: <782255.47003.qm@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070917082741.BCXE19312.wmail01dat.netvigator.com@IBM4A0955FF8C3> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070917/f8cb53e8/attachment.htm From peroki at nasa.la Mon Sep 17 20:39:48 2007 From: peroki at nasa.la (Pero Ki) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:39:48 +0200 Subject: [Ibogaine] test Message-ID: <2148.1190075988@nasa.la> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/a2e82c5e/attachment.htm From digital at phantom.com Mon Sep 17 21:00:33 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:00:33 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] bl1p Message-ID: ... <-- DotS --> ... From digital at phantom.com Tue Sep 18 03:14:52 2007 From: digital at phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:14:52 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello hello hellO ... As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to get over it, click the link: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down, and you're gone forever. ... The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day or three, then let us know. ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's arriving Any Minute Now. ... Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter how many times the information is contained within the message body; nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. Laters, Patrick ... p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe me drugZ or NOTHING! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Huh? http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 weeks... why don't you answer?: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... ... and : #10! To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! Seeya! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFG73rt5L/G7WgR2WYRAoajAJ9cPGkW3veni6acvNOsLj/ZWesz8ACgkrVu HkApdyY31uG3dio6cblStzA= =KtrL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bradleyheathhays at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 03:24:19 2007 From: bradleyheathhays at gmail.com (Brad Hays) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f5488f0709180024s15e4d240o2b1afa7fce1f4c5a@mail.gmail.com> whew! On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. 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URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/b0c8553d/attachment.htm From daleyjohn at comcast.net Tue Sep 18 03:51:19 2007 From: daleyjohn at comcast.net (John Daley) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:51:19 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS References: <1f5488f0709180024s15e4d240o2b1afa7fce1f4c5a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c7f9c8$b3c6e3c0$43620a18@home7a3ef6c9a7> I thought I was persona non grata ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Hays To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IterationS whew! On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello hello hellO ... As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to get over it, click the link: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down, and you're gone forever. ... The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day or three, then let us know. ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's arriving Any Minute Now. ... Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter how many times the information is contained within the message body; nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. Laters, Patrick ... p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe me drugZ or NOTHING! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Huh? http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 weeks... why don't you answer?: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... ... and : #10! To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! 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URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/d0ed2ea6/attachment.htm From vector620022002 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 04:05:43 2007 From: vector620022002 at yahoo.com (Vector Vector) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <596248.99393.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Awesome and glad to be back again ;) I was on for a day or two a week ago, then nothing, the 3rd iteration seems to be the charm for me :) Thank you and welcome back MindVox! .:vector:. --- "Patrick K. Kroupa" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! > Seeya! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFG73rt5L/G7WgR2WYRAoajAJ9cPGkW3veni6acvNOsLj/ZWesz8ACgkrVu > HkApdyY31uG3dio6cblStzA= > =KtrL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html From bicuitboy714 at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 05:23:38 2007 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com (Randy Faulconer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:23:38 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29d165a30709180223p5439be57s8b7a463b470cbe2c@mail.gmail.com> Hell yes...........I knew there was a reason for me to get up early as shit this morning, and it wasn't just me looking at the stars. Great view here in the Catskills if you can get past the trees. I was worried about you Patrick. I was afraid that Uncle Slather had followed thru on his plan to take over the world by first kidnapping Patrick Kroupa............and then him and Nard would.........I better shut up. Great to see the list back in the jamms again. Peace Love and Therapy Randy On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. 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The forest people had the jungle as their school and are as qualified in that field as professors are in theirs in the west. They did not have the written language so the code was recorded and passed in song, music and dance. There are also many levels to Bwiti and as there is practical there is also theory. So in order to understand iboga learn about Bwiti, what we have discovered through science is an added bonus. The second thing is that too much importance is placed on the initiation, this may be due to marketing the experience of which there is nothing wrong. You however have to feed the baby that is born or reborn through the initiation. This is a western misunderstanding that its all about the initiation which seems to come across strongly, its only the beginning of a new way of life. Bass?! ----- Original Message ---- From: Brad Hays To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 9:24:19 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IterationS whew! On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello hello hellO ... As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to get over it, click the link: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down, and you're gone forever. ... The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day or three, then let us know. ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's arriving Any Minute Now. ... Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter how many times the information is contained within the message body; nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. Laters, Patrick ... p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe me drugZ or NOTHING! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Huh? http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 weeks... why don't you answer?: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... ... and : #10! To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! 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Kroupa To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:14:52 PM Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello hello hellO ... As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, software, and significantly increased bandwidth. If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click this link immediately: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to: "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. ... We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to get over it, click the link: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down, and you're gone forever. ... The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day or three, then let us know. ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's arriving Any Minute Now. ... Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter how many times the information is contained within the message body; nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. Laters, Patrick ... p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe me drugZ or NOTHING! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Huh? http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 weeks... why don't you answer?: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine ... ... and : #10! To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! Seeya! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFG73rt5L/G7WgR2WYRAoajAJ9cPGkW3veni6acvNOsLj/ZWesz8ACgkrVu HkApdyY31uG3dio6cblStzA= =KtrL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From bicuitboy714 at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 06:41:34 2007 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com (Randy Faulconer) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:34 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: <327558.60625.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <327558.60625.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29d165a30709180341k38132511ub2a13b088ee6102e@mail.gmail.com> Damn I wish I could watch that stuff. I can't get this computer to do much more than get me in trouble for my verbal ejaculations. Spoonbob Rigpants is coming soon I fear. High there Kirky................Much loves to ya Randy On 9/18/07, Capt Kirk wrote: > > hahaha brilliant...................having helped run a website that > requires the enormous brain drain of subscribing and then ,.....cue dramatic > music............maybe having to unsubscribe, people wouldn't get how to do > it if you tattooed it backward on their forehead and they saw it while > squeezing their pusey zits in the mirror........... > Anyway to celebrate a return to Abnormalcy.............for those who > haven't seen it yet............... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO0xsV53uFs > Spongebong Hemp pants > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Patrick K. Kroupa > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:14:52 PM > Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. 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I am completely overwhelmed with information and I have reached an understanding that I have seem to have understood and grasped what it is all about. It has been a fantastic experience and I would also like to encourage those that have been initiated to keep on learning. Bass? ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/4c4d7568/attachment.htm From mallendi at voila.fr Tue Sep 18 08:49:23 2007 From: mallendi at voila.fr (mallendi at voila.fr) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS Message-ID: <3060511.411701190119763526.JavaMail.www@wwinf4604> voici le nouveaux site, Mallendi http//www.savoirs-d-afrique.org bass? bass? mallendi > Message du 18/09/07 ? 11h40 > De : "simon loxton" > A : "The Ibogaine List" > Copie ? : > Objet : Re: [Ibogaine] IterationS > > But how do you get off the list? Seriously, thanks Patrick for all the hard work that you have put into this I guess allot of us take it for granted. Met the Bwiti this weekend passed and what a fantastic experience. They were also kind enough to explain what they could about Bwiti in the few hours we spent. I have discovered two things since. The first is that to understand iboga you need to understand a bit of Bwiti. The forest people had the jungle as their school and are as qualified in that field as professors are in theirs in the west. They did not have the written language so the code was recorded and passed in song, music and dance. There are also many levels to Bwiti and as there is practical there is also theory. So in order to understand iboga learn about Bwiti, what we have discovered through science is an added bonus. The second thing is that too much importance is placed on the initiation, this may be due to marketing the experience of which there is nothing wrong. You however have to feed the baby that is born or reborn through the initiation. This is a western misunderstanding that its all about the initiation which seems to come across strongly, its only the beginning of a new way of life. Bass?! > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Brad Hays > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 9:24:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IterationS > > whew! > > On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. 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URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/4c0fa988/attachment.htm From mallendi at voila.fr Tue Sep 18 08:56:15 2007 From: mallendi at voila.fr (mallendi at voila.fr) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS Message-ID: <8357847.412591190120175531.JavaMail.www@wwinf4604> salut Patrick voici le nouveaux site Mallendi http//www.savoirs-d-afrique.org merci mallendi > Message du 18/09/07 ? 09h15 > De : "Patrick K. Kroupa" > A : "The Ibogaine List" > Copie ? : > Objet : [Ibogaine] IterationS > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. Have a great life! > Seeya! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFG73rt5L/G7WgR2WYRAoajAJ9cPGkW3veni6acvNOsLj/ZWesz8ACgkrVu > HkApdyY31uG3dio6cblStzA= > =KtrL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/f87c2472/attachment.htm From krista.vaughan at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:25:36 2007 From: krista.vaughan at gmail.com (Krista Vaughan) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:25:36 -0400 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <848277f90709180925x7266adedh2180bd00c1c1ee98@mail.gmail.com> It's really great to have this place back again I missed you guys, thank you Patrick :-) Love to everyone! KV On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such as, "HELP ME!" "I HATE > YOU!" and "UNSUBSCRIBE!" and remove you automagically. > > Everything should be back to abNormal within a few more days. > > Sorry, this was a necessary evil; everything had to change in order > to bring the new MindVox back online this fall. > > Laters, > > Patrick > > ... > > p.s., 10 more times for the Differently-Abled: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Did you want to UNSUBSCRIBE? go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO get OFF the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Me no want words, can't sm0ak or bang up werdz. werdz NO GOOD! GiVe > me drugZ or NOTHING! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Huh? > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Hello, I have written you 3,000 personal letters, in the last 2 > weeks... why don't you answer?: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > You are all Profane IDIOTS. I want a SPECIAL WORLD filled with > SPECIAL PEOPLE who don't UPSET ME. I'm leaving and creating my brand > new SPECIAL IBOGAINE WORLD ... comprised of, uhm, well, myself and 3 > people ... none of whom have ever done ibogaine, or, actually, any > drugz, except for pot. But we have SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS that are > SACRED. I HATE YOU, Peace yo! > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > Yes, but, how do I unsubscribe!??!@#!?!: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > ... > > ... and : #10! > > To remove yourself (permenantly) from the Ibogaine List, go here: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to the part that says, "unsubscribe" fill in the web form > (no email back and forth needed), you are gone. 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URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20070918/b1c3c23b/attachment.htm From vector620022002 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 12:47:16 2007 From: vector620022002 at yahoo.com (Vector Vector) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ibogaine] church of scientology vs. ibogaine In-Reply-To: <86A93CA9-77B8-4DA8-845C-F4CB2A02BB55@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: <43891.4067.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Reposting this thread since I don't think it went out to the full list, this was for me anyway the temporary MindVox is back that worked for 2 days last week :) .:vector:. --- wleetheriot wrote: > I really like this video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKBMcKLEIp8&mode=related&search= > > Warren > > > On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote: > > > Hi Matthew and others, > > > > God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe > > anyone could write such drivel and pass themselves off as > > understanding psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote > > detox-narconon.org this > > > > "Hi there, I read your page www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine- > > effects.html I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story > > > for nearly 10 years and work as a therapist here in the UK, and > > what you're written is utterly mis-informed and makes little sense > > > from a psychoanalytical perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet > > for sure, and the reputation it has developed over the years for > > potentially being so has been exploited by some proponents and > > caused it to be sought after by those with addiction issues who are > > > seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for the > > wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is, > > > imo, utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack > > > of understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the > > treatment of addiction. Are you interested in removing it or > > altering it so that it at least demonstrates a modicum of > awareness? > > Regards > > Nick Sandberg > > etc, etc " > > > > BTW, I'm loving this - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay? > > docid=5547481422995115331 Currently #2 in the google.video daily > > > chart with 35,000 views daily and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million > > > since release online in late Jun 07. > > > > BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did > > Patrick not pay the electric bill? > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net] > > Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16 > > To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com > > Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; > > ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; > > > Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; > > captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; > > vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com; > > jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > > > Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page > > kinda says what they know about ibogaine: > > > > > > > > Click here ? how to fully recover from the effect of iboga > addiction > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM > > To: HSLotsof at aol.com > > Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; > > simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de; > > mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com; > > > knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; > > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com; > > freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; > > wleetheriot at ca.rr.com > > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page > > > > > > > > they seem to call ibogaine brain washing. What's even worse I > > think this site must have some link the cult of scientology. The > > have links to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway. > > > > http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:49:14 2007 From: gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com (Melanie Gutierrez) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] IterationS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e5515970709180949o2f8a8504ha200bd362d0d804d@mail.gmail.com> Patrick YOU ROCK! My in box has been oh sooooo lonely, and you know when my box isn't filled sufficiently often enough I just dont feel CONNECTED and COMPLETE! I welcome all my warm fuzzy psycho friends back into my box. *placing WELCOME mat* Randy.....Dooooode........talk to me, I see travel in your future............. Peace, Love and Transcendence M On 9/18/07, Patrick K. Kroupa wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello hello hellO > > ... > > As of today MindVox has completed a major transition to new servers, > software, and significantly increased bandwidth. > > If you are reading these words and wish to be unsubscribed, click > this link immediately: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down to: > > "To unsubscribe from Ibogaine, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options enter your subscription email address:" > > Add the account you want removed, and you're gone; forever. > > ... > > We had to transition everything from the previous mail system / > mailing list manager, over to new software. This means the entire > subscriber list has been sifted/re-created using scripts. > Unfortunately this also means that people who have signed off in the > last coupla months, may once again re-exist. Shit happens, try to > get over it, click the link: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > Scroll down, and you're gone forever. > > ... > > The ibogaine list is extremely large. It will be re-materializing in > 4 waves, of approximately 2,000 people at a time. We have tried to > include everyone who has posted in the last year, within the first > pass. If the list is not working for someone you know, give it a day > or three, then let us know. > > ... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE, change your settings, set yourself for digest mode, > and generally PUSH BUTTONS, go to: > > http://www.mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine > > There are many new options, tagging for the mail lists will be turned > on within another day or two / and sync with the web interface that's > arriving Any Minute Now. > > ... > > Since, past experience has shown, nobody reads anything, no matter > how many times the information is contained within the message body; > nothing beats sending out 25 hysterical, "UNSUBSCRIBE!#!@#" > messages. Well, the software has gotten smarter, it'll actually read > your rant, search for key word groups such