[Ibogaine] Scholarships?

Scott Doran doranman2 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 20:01:47 EST 2007

Thank you Simon. It is a point well taken that you have made. You can't give
away the candy store and still have candy. There is nothing wrong with
charging whatever is necessary for one's services so that it is worth doing.
Dr. Deborah Mash out of the University of Miami has a clinic in the Virgin
Islands which charges $10,000.00 if I recall correctly. So I guess you could
say in a way she is in it for the money, however her overhead may be much
higher and price does not necessarily reflect a lack of ideals. A friend of
mine helped start the clinic in Mexico, which he left in good hands, not
seeking to monopolize it. He seems to live life as though he is not in it
for the money, although obviously he needs it to finance ongoing projects,
like building up an infrastructure to help feed starving children.  I will
post the site when it is ready if I can tie it in to Ibogaine somehow. The
personal rewards must be priceless. However I acknowledge the need for good
business practices for an operation  to survive. I take no offense and
accept your point as a fact to be reckoned with. It sounds as though you
speak from experience. Sometimes I say things which I don;t intend to be
taken too literally, Thanks again

On Dec 18, 2007 5:01 PM, simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Have you been there or have any first hand information? I dont know how
> you can say that they are not doing it for the money. Everyone has to make a
> living and there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody would get involved in
> investing capital into some thing that ran at a lost. I think its better
> just to say that is a more worthwhile cause to invest money in. Everyone has
> a choice where they want to go so no one is forcing you to go to a specific
> centre. I cant understand this issue that there is some thing wrong with
> charging for a service. If you are a billionaire and are able to sponsor
> ibogaine treatments that's great but there is nothing wrong with making
> money I dont see us left with much choice in the matter anyway. Maybe you
> can explain to me what you mean by the statement "They are not into it for
> the money" Firstly; anyone who works with ibogaine treatment will tell you
> that it is not an easy way of making money and it is very demanding. From
> looking after people to dealing with all kinds of people with issues and
> also personally speaking I have been ripped off by people who were so
> genuine to start with but ended up not paying me and then you have the type
> that blames either you or the treatment if their kid or they relapse. Maybe
> I am blowing off a bit of steam but unless you have first hand experience
> into what goes into into ibogaine treatment; dont talk about people doing it
> for money like it should be a charity. Ibogaine providers should get paid
> for the service they provide which is a little less then some of the
> conventional rehabs and is alot more work. No offence I just thought I would
> take the opportunity to give my opinion on the whole money issue and ibo
> providers. Take a look at what they are doing in the underground. I can say
> that so far I have not met some one who was or is involved with ibogaine who
> did not have a passion for helping people or just thought one day ''Hmmmm
> ibogaine; now there is a cherry worth plucking, not yet and I will tell you
> when I do. Nothing personal! Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this
> issue
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scott Doran <doranman2 at gmail.com>
> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December, 2007 8:03:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Scholarships?
> My research indicates that ibeginagain.com is the best deal at I beleive
> $2,500.00. They are really good people and are not doing it for the money.
> They are in Puerte Vallarte, Mexico. They may even offer a second treatment
> if it is needed.
> Da Nada
> Scott
> On Dec 18, 2007 11:39 AM, Rebecca Breeden <rbreeden at businessreport.com>
> wrote:
> > How much does one Ibogaine treatment cost? Aside from a flight ticket,
> > etc. If someone wanted an Ibogaine treatment to cure their addiction,
> > how much money would they need to summon? After the DPA conference I
> > recently attended, I felt inspired to perhaps start some memorial
> > scholarship for potential Ibogaine patients in New Orleans. I should
> > call my NY friend Doug Greene to get details... unless any of you know
> > off the top of your head.
> >
> > Any point in the right direction would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rebecca
> >
> >
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