From digitalcomponents at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 02:33:02 2007 From: digitalcomponents at gmail.com (Nyc W. Alberts) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:33:02 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] =?windows-1252?q?Kinda_OT=3A_Crooks_and_Liars_=BB_=932?= =?windows-1252?q?0_To_Life=3A_The_Life_and_Times_of_John_Sinclair=94?= Message-ID: <47510E2E.4050908@gmail.com> Gave the Yippie Museum a plug in the comments field: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/30/20-to-life-the-life-and-times-of-john-sinclair/ ~Nyc From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Sat Dec 1 08:27:21 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:27:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] Bwiti ritual Message-ID: <98408.86263.qm@web27608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I just wanted to know if there was any other "European" who has been through "The Mweri" in Gabon? You can contact me off list; which is fine. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071201/1f9ea763/attachment.htm From oskie3 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 13:36:04 2007 From: oskie3 at gmail.com (Oskie3) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:36:04 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] Treatments in New York Message-ID: <002701c83449$08b3b0b0$6c01a8c0@bridgebuilder> For my brother and I on Long Island. We can travel locally, ie. the five boroughs, Connecticut or further if necessary. Any information would be helpful. Thanks, Oskie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071201/aa2fb205/attachment.htm From davebroc at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:23:21 2007 From: davebroc at gmail.com (Dave Brockman) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] patrick in ireland? Message-ID: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> Question for the peeps here, on my school network for upcoming events, Patrick Kroupa is listed as being in Ireland right now I guess, in the 365th year of The Phil's Trinity debating society, Iguess their debate has lasted nearly 4 centuries :-) Vs. Patrick who is representing legalization of drugs and representing as High Priest of Sacrament of Transition, there's the UN office of drugs and crime and some cheery chap who's head of the National Drugs team listed with the nickname "Ming the Merciless" Yo dog, are you in Europe right now? Marko is this our Patrick, there aren't many guys named patrick kroupa, sacrament of transition at the oldest surviving debating society??? Majorly weird venue, looks like a 500 year old victorian courtroom or church, listed at every ivy league school, closed to everyone else. Friggin' weird... dog, is this the illuminanti? It looks like it. http://www.tcd.ie/info/trinity/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_Dublin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Philosophical_Society Why the fuck do none of you ever post any of this on your own website!!!! Or is it closed so nobody can attend anyway unless you wear black robes or rep some national TV station. -broc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071201/48084381/attachment.htm From luke.christoffersen at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:53:08 2007 From: luke.christoffersen at gmail.com (Luke Christoffersen) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:53:08 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] patrick in ireland? In-Reply-To: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c90d90712011853k6af48d9ek93b6b583032cab0a@mail.gmail.com> That's college in Dublin. I've walked through that place a few times. you're right it is about 500 years old. I saw in one of the Irish papers that Patrick was indeed at a debate at the college. I think the 'Ming' guy is a pro legalisation cannabis guy. If it's the guy I'm thinking off I saw him on a current affairs program a while back. I guess they were debating whether drugs should be legalised or not. They hold regular debates there and often have well known celebrities over. Luke On Dec 2, 2007 2:23 AM, Dave Brockman wrote: > > Question for the peeps here, on my school network for upcoming events, > Patrick Kroupa is listed as being in Ireland right now I guess, in the 365th > year of The Phil's Trinity debating society, Iguess their debate has lasted > nearly 4 centuries :-) > > Vs. Patrick who is representing legalization of drugs and representing as > High Priest of Sacrament of Transition, there's the UN office of drugs and > crime and some cheery chap who's head of the National Drugs team listed with > the nickname "Ming the Merciless" > > Yo dog, are you in Europe right now? Marko is this our Patrick, there > aren't many guys named patrick kroupa, sacrament of transition at the oldest > surviving debating society??? > > Majorly weird venue, looks like a 500 year old victorian courtroom or > church, listed at every ivy league school, closed to everyone else. > Friggin' weird... dog, is this the illuminanti? It looks like it. > > http://www.tcd.ie/info/trinity/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_Dublin > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Philosophical_Society > > Why the fuck do none of you ever post any of this on your own website!!!! > Or is it closed so nobody can attend anyway unless you wear black robes or > rep some national TV station. > > -broc > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071202/cf86e5f2/attachment.htm From luke.christoffersen at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:56:22 2007 From: luke.christoffersen at gmail.com (Luke Christoffersen) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:56:22 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] patrick in ireland? In-Reply-To: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c90d90712011856g52abcc00h81293c9fe6499d92@mail.gmail.com> The debates are open to the public as far as I know. I could have gone in but I only saw it in the paper that evening. > > Why the fuck do none of you ever post any of this on your own website!!!! > Or is it closed so nobody can attend anyway unless you wear black robes or > rep some national TV station. > > -broc > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071202/cbda958c/attachment.htm From leonellisjr at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 22:20:29 2007 From: leonellisjr at gmail.com (Leon Ellis) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:20:29 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] patrick in ireland? In-Reply-To: <4c90d90712011853k6af48d9ek93b6b583032cab0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> <4c90d90712011853k6af48d9ek93b6b583032cab0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b8015300712011920h1b3dc8e4q29a27bde1d996e9e@mail.gmail.com> I missed the debate too, it was not published anywhere online that I'm aware of only in newspapers covering it a day later. The Phil is very well known here, Bono from U2 and Al Pacino have talked recently, it is usually quite packed. Greets Patrick, saw you on TV3's morning talk show a few days later. Great pro legalisation debate, most of the focus was only on medical marijuana though, no heroin, crack or ibogaine mentioned. Jolly good show, took me a moment to connect your name and face with the fact that you're on my telly in Dublin. You really should post your own calendar and publish it somewhere, I would have gone out to see you at the Phil and brought you a few pints! Big ups to all my mates! On Dec 1, 2007 9:53 PM, Luke Christoffersen wrote: > That's college in Dublin. I've walked through that place a few times. > you're right it is about 500 years old. I saw in one of the Irish papers > that Patrick was indeed at a debate at the college. I think the 'Ming' guy > is a pro legalisation cannabis guy. If it's the guy I'm thinking off I saw > him on a current affairs program a while back. I guess they were debating > whether drugs should be legalised or not. They hold regular debates there > and often have well known celebrities over. > > Luke > > On Dec 2, 2007 2:23 AM, Dave Brockman wrote: > > > > > Question for the peeps here, on my school network for upcoming events, > > Patrick Kroupa is listed as being in Ireland right now I guess, in the 365th > > year of The Phil's Trinity debating society, Iguess their debate has lasted > > nearly 4 centuries :-) > > > > Vs. Patrick who is representing legalization of drugs and representing > > as High Priest of Sacrament of Transition, there's the UN office of drugs > > and crime and some cheery chap who's head of the National Drugs team listed > > with the nickname "Ming the Merciless" > > > > Yo dog, are you in Europe right now? Marko is this our Patrick, there > > aren't many guys named patrick kroupa, sacrament of transition at the oldest > > surviving debating society??? > > > > Majorly weird venue, looks like a 500 year old victorian courtroom or > > church, listed at every ivy league school, closed to everyone else. > > Friggin' weird... dog, is this the illuminanti? It looks like it. > > > > http://www.tcd.ie/info/trinity/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_Dublin > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Philosophical_Society > > > > Why the fuck do none of you ever post any of this on your own > > website!!!! Or is it closed so nobody can attend anyway unless you wear > > black robes or rep some national TV station. > > > > -broc > > > > > > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071201/6718af75/attachment-0001.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Sun Dec 2 12:25:32 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] ibogaine manufacturers Message-ID: <773329.53387.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just by chance I came across two companies who supply ibogaine hcl the one was in Switzerland and the other in China. In Switzerland it's illegal and they made it clear that there was some red tape. I have sent some requests for information just out of interest. I just wonder; if there are these companies manufacturing who are they supplying? There is always the question why big pharmaceutical companies are not interested in ibogaine research; but I know of at least one of them that did ibogaine research back in the 80's when a friend of mine was working on one of the Ritalin machines. So how much is going on that we don't know about? I know there is not much chance of answering these questions but it is some thing to think about...... __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071202/57eed8f1/attachment.htm From matthew at mailcentro.zzn.com Sun Dec 2 12:46:04 2007 From: matthew at mailcentro.zzn.com (Matthew Shriver) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:46:04 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] scary Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071202/e17054d2/attachment.htm From bicuitboy714 at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 19:10:36 2007 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com (Randy Faulconer) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:10:36 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] patrick in ireland? In-Reply-To: <3b8015300712011920h1b3dc8e4q29a27bde1d996e9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> <4c90d90712011853k6af48d9ek93b6b583032cab0a@mail.gmail.com> <3b8015300712011920h1b3dc8e4q29a27bde1d996e9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29d165a30712021610v506420c3pa232ce3dc90422fa@mail.gmail.com> Rock on Patrick On Dec 1, 2007 10:20 PM, Leon Ellis wrote: > I missed the debate too, it was not published anywhere online that I'm > aware of only in newspapers covering it a day later. The Phil is very well > known here, Bono from U2 and Al Pacino have talked recently, it is usually > quite packed. > > Greets Patrick, saw you on TV3's morning talk show a few days later. Great > pro legalisation debate, most of the focus was only on medical marijuana > though, no heroin, crack or ibogaine mentioned. Jolly good show, took me a > moment to connect your name and face with the fact that you're on my telly > in Dublin. You really should post your own calendar and publish it > somewhere, I would have gone out to see you at the Phil and brought you a > few pints! > > Big ups to all my mates! > > > On Dec 1, 2007 9:53 PM, Luke Christoffersen > wrote: > > > That's college in Dublin. I've walked through that place a few times. > > you're right it is about 500 years old. I saw in one of the Irish papers > > that Patrick was indeed at a debate at the college. I think the 'Ming' guy > > is a pro legalisation cannabis guy. If it's the guy I'm thinking off I saw > > him on a current affairs program a while back. I guess they were debating > > whether drugs should be legalised or not. They hold regular debates there > > and often have well known celebrities over. > > > > Luke > > > > On Dec 2, 2007 2:23 AM, Dave Brockman wrote: > > > > > > > > Question for the peeps here, on my school network for upcoming events, > > > Patrick Kroupa is listed as being in Ireland right now I guess, in the 365th > > > year of The Phil's Trinity debating society, Iguess their debate has lasted > > > nearly 4 centuries :-) > > > > > > Vs. Patrick who is representing legalization of drugs and representing > > > as High Priest of Sacrament of Transition, there's the UN office of drugs > > > and crime and some cheery chap who's head of the National Drugs team listed > > > with the nickname "Ming the Merciless" > > > > > > Yo dog, are you in Europe right now? Marko is this our Patrick, there > > > aren't many guys named patrick kroupa, sacrament of transition at the oldest > > > surviving debating society??? > > > > > > Majorly weird venue, looks like a 500 year old victorian courtroom or > > > church, listed at every ivy league school, closed to everyone else. > > > Friggin' weird... dog, is this the illuminanti? It looks like it. > > > > > > http://www.tcd.ie/info/trinity/ > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College_Dublin > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Philosophical_Society > > > > > > Why the fuck do none of you ever post any of this on your own > > > website!!!! Or is it closed so nobody can attend anyway unless you wear > > > black robes or rep some national TV station. > > > > > > -broc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > > > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > > > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > > > > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071202/0eb35b13/attachment.htm From hslotsof at phantom.com Tue Dec 4 14:00:34 2007 From: hslotsof at phantom.com (Howard Lotsof) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:00:34 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] ibogaine production and clinical research In-Reply-To: <29d165a30712021610v506420c3pa232ce3dc90422fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <17153a010712011823g314b654cx83fa5b725ed22e2c@mail.gmail.com> <4c90d90712011853k6af48d9ek93b6b583032cab0a@mail.gmail.com> <3b8015300712011920h1b3dc8e4q29a27bde1d996e9e@mail.gmail.com> <29d165a30712021610v506420c3pa232ce3dc90422fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <89AAA787-1537-45B5-BEED-87C9508BB2F2@phantom.com> From hslotsof at phantom.com Tue Dec 4 15:05:00 2007 From: hslotsof at phantom.com (Howard Lotsof) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:05:00 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] Fwd: ibogaine production and clinical research References: <89AAA787-1537-45B5-BEED-87C9508BB2F2@phantom.com> Message-ID: <518D3E22-EBC0-4237-9929-D1EA911BBBC5@phantom.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: Howard Lotsof > Date: December 4, 2007 2:00:34 PM EST > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: ibogaine production and clinical research > > Have no idea what happened to the original message. Any comments on the attached Summary concerning pharmaceutical grade ibogaine appreciated, particularly technical evaluation. Thanks Howard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Summary_GMP_Ibogaine.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 8975 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071204/1146ee4d/attachment-0001.pdf From prestonpeet at yahoo.com Tue Dec 4 17:09:10 2007 From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com (Preston Peet) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms Message-ID: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. Peace,love and Lotsof respect. Preston (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) ----- Original Message ---- From: Howard Lotsof To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone does what they have to do but,..... Howard On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > from opiates. > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > loperamide across the BBB. -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From leonmac007 at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 05:29:47 2007 From: leonmac007 at gmail.com (Leon MacDonald) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 02:29:47 -0800 Subject: [Ibogaine] ibogaine manufacturers In-Reply-To: <773329.53387.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <773329.53387.qm@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10fa73910712050229w1a030e64p9f49874efbd80574@mail.gmail.com> How odd. L On 12/2/07, simon loxton wrote: > Just by chance I came across two companies who supply ibogaine hcl the one > was in Switzerland and the other in China. In Switzerland it's illegal and > they made it clear that there was some red tape. I have sent some requests > for information just out of interest. I just wonder; if there are these > companies manufacturing who are they supplying? There is always the question > why big pharmaceutical companies are not interested in ibogaine research; > but I know of at least one of them that did ibogaine research back in the > 80's when a friend of mine was working on one of the Ritalin machines. So > how much is going on that we don't know about? I know there is not much > chance of answering these questions but it is some thing to think > about...... > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com > From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 5 06:37:46 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:37:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] ibogaine manufacturers Message-ID: <797403.28285.qm@web27607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I managed to get a response from the company in Switzerland and they do not have stock or have any plans for future manufacture. I am still waiting to hear from the company in Hong Kong which is all just out of interest. I am still interested why they were manufacturing. ----- Original Message ---- From: Leon MacDonald To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 12:29:47 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] ibogaine manufacturers How odd. L On 12/2/07, simon loxton wrote: > Just by chance I came across two companies who supply ibogaine hcl the one > was in Switzerland and the other in China. In Switzerland it's illegal and > they made it clear that there was some red tape. I have sent some requests > for information just out of interest. I just wonder; if there are these > companies manufacturing who are they supplying? There is always the question > why big pharmaceutical companies are not interested in ibogaine research; > but I know of at least one of them that did ibogaine research back in the > 80's when a friend of mine was working on one of the Ritalin machines. So > how much is going on that we don't know about? I know there is not much > chance of answering these questions but it is some thing to think > about...... > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/e96db523/attachment.htm From jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Dec 5 07:36:07 2007 From: jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Brookshaw) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:36:07 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms In-Reply-To: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800> From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across.> Peace,love and Lotsof respect.> Preston> (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.)> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point.> > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,.....> > Howard> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates.> >> > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms.> >> > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg.> >> > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department.> >> > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB.> > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=-> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/96adc2bb/attachment.htm From marko at phantom.com Wed Dec 5 09:24:53 2007 From: marko at phantom.com (marko at phantom.com) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:24:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ibogaine] on toilets and ideology In-Reply-To: References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63835.194.249.35.93.1196864693.squirrel@phantom.com> I L0v3 philosophy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTJXHNP0bg ;-) Marko From digitalcomponents at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 11:10:47 2007 From: digitalcomponents at gmail.com (Nyc W. Alberts) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] Repeal Day is December 5th! Message-ID: <4756CD87.8000006@gmail.com> Celebrate Good Times! When drinking became legal again in the US, on this day, in 1933, FDR poured himself a Dry Martini that he shared with The Nation. Would that El Herr Presidente Fo' Life Bluto Busch would spark up in the Rose Garden and set an example for the rest of us. From misvetli at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 11:46:09 2007 From: misvetli at gmail.com (Dragan Stamenovic) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:46:09 +0100 Subject: [Ibogaine] on toilets and ideology In-Reply-To: <63835.194.249.35.93.1196864693.squirrel@phantom.com> References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <63835.194.249.35.93.1196864693.squirrel@phantom.com> Message-ID: BRAVO dragan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/ebebe1fc/attachment-0001.htm From JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM Wed Dec 5 13:53:48 2007 From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM (LEE) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:53:48 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don't get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/1641ed41/attachment.htm From gomorrhan at hotmail.com Wed Dec 5 14:01:31 2007 From: gomorrhan at hotmail.com (Kevin Brady) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:01:31 -0800 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don't get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/34d622e0/attachment-0001.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 5 14:15:38 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:15:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Message-ID: <166932.17032.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Ha ha; I don't think people are going to stop asking you this one. Junk does not always have to refer to smack; in this case it does not; but brick 'a' brack boy does not have the same appeal nor does "iboboy" Take care Lee! ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Brady To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 9:01:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/7ffb64c6/attachment.htm From jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Dec 5 16:11:05 2007 From: jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Brookshaw) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:11:05 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms In-Reply-To: References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hugs Preston ;')~~~ Be well bro' From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COMTo: ibogaine at mindvox.comDate: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:53:48 -0700Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable'Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800> From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across.> Peace,love and Lotsof respect.> Preston> (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.)> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point.> > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,.....> > Howard> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates.> >> > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms.> >> > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg.> >> > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department.> >> > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB.> > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=-> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-(][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/5e8b3e95/attachment-0001.htm From jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Dec 5 16:13:07 2007 From: jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Brookshaw) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:13:07 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms In-Reply-To: References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: he he he' In or out, it's all chaos' Just depends how you associate attachments' Ez now' From: gomorrhan at hotmail.comTo: ibogaine at mindvox.comDate: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:01:31 -0800Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady(415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.comhttp://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable'Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800> From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across.> Peace,love and Lotsof respect.> Preston> (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.)> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point.> > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,.....> > Howard> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates.> >> > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms.> >> > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg.> >> > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department.> >> > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB.> > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=-> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-(][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-(][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting ? Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/6e25aa82/attachment.htm From jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Dec 5 16:14:52 2007 From: jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Brookshaw) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:14:52 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms In-Reply-To: <166932.17032.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <166932.17032.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ah Si' I was having fun, you went an told him' Associations ;')~~~ he he' Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:15:38 +0000From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.ukTo: ibogaine at mindvox.comSubject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Ha ha; I don't think people are going to stop asking you this one. Junk does not always have to refer to smack; in this case it does not; but brick 'a' brack boy does not have the same appeal nor does "iboboy" Take care Lee! ----- Original Message ----From: Kevin Brady To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 9:01:31 PMSubject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady(415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.comhttp://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable'Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800> From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across.> Peace,love and Lotsof respect.> Preston> (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.)> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point.> > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,.....> > Howard> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote:> > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates.> >> > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms.> >> > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg.> >> > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department.> >> > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB.> > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=-> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-> (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][)> -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=-Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-(][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=-(][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/59b1a303/attachment-0001.htm From bicuitboy714 at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 16:45:38 2007 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com (Randy Faulconer) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:45:38 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] on toilets and ideology In-Reply-To: References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <63835.194.249.35.93.1196864693.squirrel@phantom.com> Message-ID: <29d165a30712051345r6f5baabeg174ae19f3822cf8b@mail.gmail.com> I can't download Utube.............I feel like the one that can't go to the party. Couldn't go to New Orleans either. Peace Love and Self Pity Randy On 12/5/07, Dragan Stamenovic wrote: > BRAVO > > dragan > From bicuitboy714 at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 17:04:24 2007 From: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com (Randy Faulconer) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:04:24 -0500 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms In-Reply-To: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29d165a30712051404x68890cfbh84539648da1eb11a@mail.gmail.com> High Preston, it's great to see you putting something on the list. I've been thinkin' of you. I miss you, and miss talking every now and then. I hope you've been writing dude. You are in a great place to do a novel. I was thinking of that today when I saw your note come up. I've been where you are and I think it's a great place to bring out the Eagle Scout in yourself when you are bored. Get a good 22 or a pellet gun and get real good at shooting it. Zen and the art of target practice. I've been doing it and it keeps my mind from spinning out of control sometimes. I can hit pennies at 25 yards now with a scope. Go out in the desert and hunt for indian heads, carry the 22 in case you get too close to a rattle snake. You can get shot shells for a 22 ya know. I wish I was there to hang with you in that atmosphere. Did I say I love you?? I love you dude and I wanna see you do well. It would be a good time to start a novel wouldn't it?? Lost in the Lower East Side. Can you imagine the things you could think up that a dude lost in NYC could get in to?? Give me a call when you can dude. I'd love to talk to you. As far as what Dharma said about Hep C..............I had Hep C when I took Ibogaine for methadone addiction. I have tested negative ever since. I did Interferon too though. I think the combo just might be a cure for hep C. I hope you can get something going on that Howard, you deserve to get something for all of your work Peace Love and Friends Randy On 12/4/07, Preston Peet wrote: > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and > I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of > effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it > was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any > other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so > lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal > symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > From JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM Wed Dec 5 17:28:52 2007 From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM (LEE) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:28:52 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ive always been junkboy, even before the oxy's and heroin.... I don't identify it with junk (dope) It means junk cars and motorcycles and such... ill attach a picture of my stock. I part out motorcycles and such for a living, and Ive always had junk cars, motorcycles and such around, so I finally made it my living..... its not because of "junk=heroin" junk=cool old machines.. http://members.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=junkboy64 specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Brady To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don't get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/96798212/attachment-0001.htm From JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM Wed Dec 5 17:30:30 2007 From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM (LEE) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:30:30 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms References: <998375.61939.qm@web63009.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: kevin, the biggest problem,is im 32 years old.... I didn't even consider junkman, its always been junkboy... its hard to identify myself as an adult.... I have never liked adults, and damn.... its snuck up on me..... and I am one specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Brady To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don't get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/ab221e23/attachment.htm From JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM Wed Dec 5 17:32:13 2007 From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM (LEE) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:32:13 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms References: <166932.17032.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: lol, thanks tons simon for sticking up for me!!!! I just have a lot of junk!!!!! junkboy aka junkman aka lee specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: simon loxton To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Ha ha; I don't think people are going to stop asking you this one. Junk does not always have to refer to smack; in this case it does not; but brick 'a' brack boy does not have the same appeal nor does "iboboy" Take care Lee! ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Brady > To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 9:01:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/67c3127c/attachment-0001.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 5 18:19:32 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:19:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Message-ID: <789068.9525.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Everyone needs to be cut some slack; I also generally find that when people give up dope they some times become even more obsessive about drugs than they were before. I thought the point was to give up the negative behaviour and get on with enjoying life. ----- Original Message ---- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Thursday, 6 December, 2007 12:32:13 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms ? lol, thanks tons simon for sticking up for me!!!! I just have a lot of junk!!!!! junkboy aka junkman aka lee specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: simon loxton To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Ha ha; I don't think people are going to stop asking you this one. Junk does not always have to refer to smack; in this case it does not; but brick 'a' brack boy does not have the same appeal nor does "iboboy" Take care Lee! ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Brady To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 9:01:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/9c347cd4/attachment.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 5 18:40:52 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria Message-ID: <228579.6207.qm@web27608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hey Paul; I dont know if I mis-read your post about amanitas (fly-agaric); but muscimol and muscarin seem to be the main active ingredients in amanitas they do not contain psilocyibin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria ___________________________________________________________ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/909d8a06/attachment.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 5 19:06:27 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria Message-ID: <942009.1499.qm@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> sorry I meant psilocybin ! Magnesium for Nerves Magnesium has a calming effect on the nervous system. With this, it is frequently used to promote good sleep. But more importantly, it can be used to calm irritated and over-excited nerves. This is especially useful with epileptic seizures, convulsions in pregnant women and the 'shakes' in alcoholism. Magnesium levels are generally low in alcoholics, contributing or causing many of their health problems. If magnesium levels are low, the nerves lose control over muscle activity, respiration and mental processes. Nervous fatigue, tics and twitches, tremors, irritability, hypersensitivity, muscle spasms, restlessness, anxiety, confusion, disorientation and irregular heartbeat all respond to increased magnesium levels. A common phenomenon of magnesium deficiency is a sharp muscle reaction to an unexpected loud noise. 'Memory pills' have been marketed that consist mainly of magnesium. ----- Original Message ---- From: simon loxton To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Sent: Thursday, 6 December, 2007 1:40:52 AM Subject: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria Hey Paul; I dont know if I mis-read your post about amanitas (fly-agaric); but muscimol and muscarin seem to be the main active ingredients in amanitas they do not contain psilocyibin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071206/1471c743/attachment-0001.htm From jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk Wed Dec 5 19:37:50 2007 From: jiggy9 at hotmail.co.uk (Paul Brookshaw) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:37:50 +0000 Subject: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria In-Reply-To: <942009.1499.qm@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <942009.1499.qm@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Si' Never said so in the first place bro' I said, you can't sleep on psylosibin, where you can on Amanita' Psylosibin is not a good pain killer Amanita' is. Psylosibin is good for rewiring bad psychic energies, allowing one to burn it out through trip so to speak' They aid in healing due to their ability to help clean cells from the i side out' They help increase Nitrogen levels in the brain' Building block for healing and repair and growth' Amanita increases Acetolcholine levels and aids in sleep' Has anti-depressant properties Works well as a low dose regime, is an awesome pain killer in withdrawal' Gives great body strenght and also psychic strenght to help cope with withdrawal' Mixed in correct proportions with Nymphaea Caerulea and other choice herbs, gives relief to most of the major signs of withdrawal' I do love the Amanita, she has so many uses and is usually ignored by most' Ez now' Paul' Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:06:27 +0000From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.ukTo: ibogaine at mindvox.comSubject: Re: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria sorry I meant psilocybin ! Magnesium for NervesMagnesium has a calming effect on the nervous system. With this, it is frequently used to promote good sleep. But more importantly, it can be used to calm irritated and over-excited nerves. This is especially useful with epileptic seizures, convulsions in pregnant women and the 'shakes' in alcoholism. Magnesium levels are generally low in alcoholics, contributing or causing many of their health problems. If magnesium levels are low, the nerves lose control over muscle activity, respiration and mental processes. Nervous fatigue, tics and twitches, tremors, irritability, hypersensitivity, muscle spasms, restlessness, anxiety, confusion, disorientation and irregular heartbeat all respond to increased magnesium levels. A common phenomenon of magnesium deficiency is a sharp muscle reaction to an unexpected loud noise. 'Memory pills' have been marketed that consist mainly of magnesium. ----- Original Message ----From: simon loxton To: ibogaine at mindvox.comSent: Thursday, 6 December, 2007 1:40:52 AMSubject: [Ibogaine] amanita muscaria Hey Paul; I dont know if I mis-read your post about amanitas (fly-agaric); but muscimol and muscarin seem to be the main active ingredients in amanitas they do not contain psilocyibin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071206/b5373611/attachment.htm From jeffgallop at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 23:34:48 2007 From: jeffgallop at gmail.com (Jeff G) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:34:48 -0800 Subject: [Ibogaine] question Message-ID: <6d00cca70712052034r3e53e14atc761d22fba0f3b2@mail.gmail.com> a few weeks/month... back some one list stated they were a therapist practicing in San Fransisco...Could that person contact me oof list Thanks All is well and my best to all us ibonaunts for a great new year and holiday season Freak Free Jeff From JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM Thu Dec 6 01:20:00 2007 From: JUNKBOY64 at MSN.COM (LEE) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Ibogaine] ibo root from spain References: <166932.17032.qm@web27610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hey all, there is some ibo root for sale from spain.. the last batch was bad and he now has a new batch. has anyone tried the new batch??? if so how good is it?? I kind of want to try some as an anti depressant and to help with energy.... its supposed to be a good batch.. not like the batch from jean claude...... pure vocanga a. junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms ? lol, thanks tons simon for sticking up for me!!!! I just have a lot of junk!!!!! junkboy aka junkman aka lee specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: simon loxton To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Ha ha; I don't think people are going to stop asking you this one. Junk does not always have to refer to smack; in this case it does not; but brick 'a' brack boy does not have the same appeal nor does "iboboy" Take care Lee! ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Brady > To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, 5 December, 2007 9:01:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms Just a comment, Lee, and don't take it personally, but why do you identify yourself as "junkboy": do you think that's a healthy way to self-identify after recovery? Might sound stupid, but why not "iboboy" or however you picture yourself these days? Kevin G. Brady (415) 341-0022, gomorrhan at hotmail.com http://www.myspace.com/clear_objectives ----- Original Message ----- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatmentofwithdrawal symptoms preston!!!! its good to see something from you and its cool to even get the one ibogaine list email I get every once in a while!!! anything wrong with the server??? I don?t get any list email hardly... junkboy specializing in honda and yamaha motorcycle parts 1960-1989. if you need anything call or email, we can get any part you need. new, and used, even if the part is obsolete. if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine, meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i promise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brookshaw To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment ofwithdrawal symptoms Restless leg syndrome and a freakin high head from withdrawal' How come no one thinks to take Apomorphine' Nymphaea Caerulea Extract' Cuts the withdrawal down by at least 60%, binds to the benzodiazapine receptors, so no need for benzos' or any other funky "Drugs" Weened completely in ten days and no withdrawal syndrome from the Apomorphine' Mixed with a few grams of Amanita Muscaria and you will be well comfortable' Psilosibin is not as good a pain killer, alright for burning out them bad psychic energies, cleaning out cells, and aiding in cell regenoration through increased Nitrogen production levels in the brain, but you can't take them and then go to sleep' Then everyone just runs for the Benzos, instead of allowing nature to take her course' The key is in the plants, not the pills' A friend just told me it was the easiest detox he has ever done' Sleeping, eating, exercising' It is all about Self Education' Or you can just feed doctors and pharmacutical companies with your money/life/devils an demons/freedoms' An just to add. Why fear Ibogaine' It is yourself of which you "FEAR" not the plant' You only experience of what you take with you' Bliss beyond "FEAR" Ez now' Paul' > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:09:10 -0800 > From: prestonpeet at yahoo.com > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > I'm still a bit frightened at the mere thought of taking ibogaine again, and I've taken it in a couple of different forms since 2004 to a variety of effects and results. Still, I continue to recommend to any and all that it was a LOT more enjoyable a way to get through serious withdrawals than any other method of doing so I've personally come across. > Peace,love and Lotsof respect. > Preston > (got a message from you Randy I keep meaning to return. Sorry I've been so lax, but reception out here in the boonies suCKs Big Time.) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Howard Lotsof > To: The Ibogaine List > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:20:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] My own experiments for treatment of withdrawal symptoms > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > > I have hep c and am scared of Iboga at this point. > > A lot of people with HCV take ibogaine. Being scared of ibogaine is > a distinct issue. Considering the detox and discomfort you describe > I would opt for ibogaine providing you don't have cardiac disorders. > Of course each patient has to be individually accessed. Everyone > does what they have to do but,..... > > Howard > > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, ::dharmabumwarrior:: wrote: > > From 100mg methadone daily taken in divided doses, i reduced to > > 10mg qd over 7 days. On 6th day started 400mg loperamide qid, > > mineral oil 1 tbl qid, valium 5mg bid, then on the alternate day - > > xanax .5 mg bid, midazolam q hs. The benzos after about 4 days > > start exhibiting the paradoxical excitability during drug reduction > > from opiates. > > > > On 8th day started out with Psylocibin mushrooms. > > > > Continued small doses of mushrooms, reduced the benzos, threw in > > some benadryl as there were paradoxical effects from the benzos, > > mostly restless leg syndrome. Continued with the midazolam at 7.5 mg. > > > > Physically it worked well, I fail in the depression department. > > > > I am thinking of using some x on some kind of schedule as that > > might get me through the initial brain realignment. I thought maybe > > seligilene (sp) also. Wish i could think of a way to get the > > loperamide across the BBB. > > > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- > (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) > -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- Can you guess the film? Search Charades! -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail. -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands ::::::: (]=- (][%] :: http://mindvox.com/mailman/listinfo/ibogaine :: [%][) -=[) :::: Change Account Settings :: [Un]Subscribe :::: (]=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/attachments/20071205/be073c5c/attachment-0001.htm From simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 6 02:43:46 2007 From: simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk (simon loxton) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:43:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ibogaine] ibo root from spain Message-ID: <912819.17821.qm@web27615.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> its good; its from me. ----- Original Message ---- From: LEE To: The Ibogaine List Sent: Thursday, 6 December, 2