[Ibogaine] psych drug fraud

Matthew Shriver Matt at ITSupport.net
Sun Oct 8 13:49:14 EDT 2006

I know I already commented on this website but I wanted to say one more
thing.  I don't know if this is indicative of Scientology or just a
characteristic of this website but this site is built around the western
philosophical position that what is not scientific is not real.  There is an
implicit attitude in science in general that says that what cannot be
empirically measured and verified has no validity.  The irony of this
position has been pointed out by others and that is that there is no
empirically verifiable evidence to support the position that only
empirically verifiable evidence has validity.  The purely scientific view
ignores the fact that it cannot justify itself by its own standards.

What is truly harmful about this philosophical viewpoint is that it
dismisses as irrelevant such things as value judgments, conscience,
consciousness, spirit, and any notions whatsoever of God or a universal
spirit.  Because psychiatry attempts to deal with problems of consciousness
and mind it is dealing with things that science itself cannot deal with
because it cannot completely validate these things with its own standards of
empiricism.  I guess the point is that a purely scientific viewpoint is not
equipped nor justified in leveling any criticisms at areas of knowledge in
which its own empirical processes cannot illumine.

I know there is an attempt in psychiatry to be scientific by using things
like repeatable, verifiable experiments but ultimately any knowledge quest
that relies on the subjective views of individuals cannot be made into a
science in the same sense as purely objective sciences like biology or
chemistry.  To the pure scientist consciousness itself is simply some sort
of random side effect of a chemical situation in a biological organ and is,
in itself, irrelevant.  Only the chemical processes going on in the brain
have any real relevance, and therefore reality, by this world view.  A
vastly incomplete philosophical world view if you asked me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aimee Forrester [mailto:aim_jf at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 4:21 PM
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: [Ibogaine] psych drug fraud

Check this video link out;


After Tom Cruise' exposure of the psych drug fraud last year the FDA ordered

those anti-depressants to carry black labels warning citizens that they can 
cause suicide, violence, psychosis, mania, heart attacks and sudden death 
and that sales of such anti-depressants fell a 20% - it seems like the 
psychs & the pharmaceuticals have not forgiven Tom for having cut their 
income which is higher than $76 billions a year a 20%. That must have hurt. 
It's a hell of a lot of money!

Just recently we all heard about the noisy split between Paramount (owned by

Viacom) and Tom. Why was Cruise slammed by Viacom's head when he had made 1 
billion for them in the last year just with his last two movies War of the 
Worlds and MI3? Well, the amount of money made by the movie industry is 
peanuts compared to the amount of money made by the pharmaceutical industry.

In fact, it happens that William Gray, who is part of Viacom's board of 
directors, is also on the board of Pfizer (the largest pharmaceutical 
company by 2004 sales). And Ivan Seidenberg, who is also part of Viacom's 
board of directors, is on the board of Wyeth (the 10th largest 
pharmaceutical company by 2004 sales). You are free to pull the string if 
you want to know the whole truth... you may be very surprised.

By the way, it seems that Viacom's shares fell as much as a 10% after the 
whole thing...

Psychiatry and the pharmaceuticals sure have the resources to create such a 
huge media wave in an attempt to destroy Tom Cruise, who is putting their 
risky business in danger just by unveiling the truth. If they were not doing

anything wrong why should they care about him and about what he said?

If you not to prejudge and you care to investigate a little bit around on 
your own you can find very interesting data and evidence in webs such as 
www.cchr.org and others. I have also found very interesting books on the 
subject. Last but not least, there is an extremely interesting video around 
on the Internet they sure don't want you to watch: More Even more

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