[Ibogaine] Move on with Ibogaine

Kirk captkirk at clear.net.nz
Sun Mar 26 02:23:12 EST 2006


Chi..... huh????

-----Original Message-----
From: cm [mailto:cm67 at optusnet.com.au] 
Sent: Saturday, 25 March 2006 8:33 p.m.
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Move on with Ibogaine

anything i wrote about the pharmaceutical companies was something id asked a

sheep loving australian lad over coffee
last year and that was the answer he gave me : )
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <captkirk at clear.net.nz>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Move on with Ibogaine


> Kirk yells "I'M NOT OUTSPOKEN AND I REALLY WANTED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT 
> THAT".
> ..
> After watching the rite of passage dvd and being a long term snarler at
> Pharamaceuticals, a point was made that it's not just the pharmaceuticals,
> it's the SHAREHOLDERS, social stigma blah blah who won't have a bar of it,
> so us born again iboganutz need to start our own pharmaceutical, own all 
> the
> shares et voila!!
> Yeh well, that's from a fried brain, gimmee a break LOL
> Koikywoiky going mad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cm [mailto:cm67 at optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 11:52 a.m.
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Move on with Ibogaine
>
> Q.3 WHAT HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY? i havent done ibogaine myself yet, still 
> on
> methadone, lowering my dose, going to counselling and getting the money
> together to take 2 months off when i do. from what ive read about 
> ibogaine,
> and ive read alot, NIDA did studies on ibogaine using addicts in the early
> 90's, there was a death and the trials stopped.
> ive also been told that because ibogaine is largely a one off treatment no
> pharmaceutical co. will put their name to it, no money to be made, dont 
> want
>
> to be affiliated with drug/herion addicts.
> and furthermore, if im not wrong the nazis came up with methadone in the 
> 1st
>
> place for one of hitlers generals who was an opium addict so he could go 
> to
> battle. they ended up giving it to their soldiers to get them addicted and
> wouldnt give them more (leave them hanging out) till they made it to the
> next town they were to strike.
> so if there was no one left on methadone, there would be no more little
> hitler soldiers running around, how would the government keep such an
> outspoken bunch of people quiet?????
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "František Hrdý" <fanyz at seznam.cz>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:00 PM
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Move on with Ibogaine
>
>
>> This forum is running so fast now, that I really can't catch up reading 
>> it
>
>> all. Most of posts seem to me either empty talk or people trying to
>> express their lives misery. Maybe I'm just lazy to read though. I like
>> humour and I like to say that life sucks just as everyone else does, but
>> are we not missing the main point here?
>>
>> I really want to do something to bring Ibogaine closer to the light.
>> More specifically, I want all addicts to have hope.
>>
>> Well, couple questions here!
>> Probably towards Mr. Howard, since he is most informed about everything,
>> but if anyone of you feels you have something to comment, please do it!
>>
>> First of all, I heard this hundred times, but it's never enough for me,
>> since I was never addicted.
>> 1. ARE YOU SURE IBOGAINE WORKS?
>> And I don't want you to understand this question wrong. Can you try to
>> express what may be stated about Ibogaine with no doubt? (Please, do not
>> say 'fuck yeah!' or tell me, it's extract of root of some African plant -
>> I learned that already!)
>>
>> 2. IS THERE ANY PLAN?
>> Is there a leader person or leader organisation with plan what to provide
>> Ibogaine to everyone who needs it? What steps are missing?
>>
>> 3. WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY?
>> What communication has been done with different governments, drug 
>> centres,
>
>> hospitals, and rich people?
>> How far did it come in scientific researches?
>> Were there any courses done in public places, schools or churches?
>> What about posters and so?
>> I found endless sources on Internet, but what about TV shows?
>> Was Ibogaine ever mentioned in any mass-movie?
>> Can you estimate, how many people has already heard about Ibogaine and 
>> how
>
>> many are positive about it?
>>
>> 4. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTION HOW I COULD BE HELPFUL?
>> I agree here, that main problem is, that most people don't have even idea
>> that something like Ibogaine could exist. What can we do about it?
>>
>> There is .eu domain registration open now. (Did anyone of you try domain
>> Ibogaine.com or Ibogaine.info - what does this content have to do with
>> Ibogaine? Well, .com probably expires next year and .info at september.
>> There are no pages on .org, which is registered to NDA.) I would like to
>> register Ibogaine.eu and Detox.eu domains and make very general web pages
>> with tons of links, explanations, statistics and so. What do you people
>> think about it, is there someone here interested in helping me?
>>
>> I have two side questions: From what disease was treated the African lady
>> in Rite of passage movie? Would you mind me to convert the movie to divx
>> and publish it on Internet?
>>
>>
>> I'm pretty certain that I would get more replies if I needed some 
>> personal
>
>> help. Well that's cool too. You are nice people and love and personal 
>> help
>
>> is sure most important. But I still believe that this fucked-up world may
>> be made better by good people joining together and doing something big.
>> Please participate in improving in what all people agree is good - hope,
>> help, faith, freedom ... any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> With love and devotion
>>
>> fanyz
>>
>>
>>
>>
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