[Ibogaine] Is Ibo a Schedule 1?

Melanie Gutierrez gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com
Thu Dec 21 17:30:54 EST 2006


Well I can't speak to rats, anyone out there that can.  My powers are
limited to Dogs and Dead people

On 12/21/06, wleetheriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody ask the rats how the 18-MC trips went? Warren
>
>  On Dec 21, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Melanie Gutierrez wrote:
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>  Sorry, it wasn't Dana who said it, it was Sandra in CA.  I confused the
> names I appologize.  Speaking of BC though, next year sometime I may be
> attending a Rottweiler Trail in Victoria.  If Ms Preggers makes it, I may be
> contacting you at that point if I'm in the area.
>
>
>
> On 12/21/06, Melanie Gutierrez <gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well,  I must agree with Dana and there is no real primary research
> > published out there on 18-MC.  Only the stuff that Glick has done with
> > rats.  I've looked everywhere I know where with out paying for anything,
> > we've all read the abstracts it seems.  So as far as the convo about 18-MC
> > and Mexico, maybe I'm confused, but whats the hold up if there really is a
> > clinic willing to do a trial?  Now a little off topic here, but me being a
> > newbie, you all may have already seen this article that I'm going to send
> > through.  It was a Village Voice article in 2005 saying that a couple was
> > busted for conspiracy to import iboga.  Enjoy
> > Melanie
> >
> >
> >  On 12/19/06, Melanie Gutierrez <gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > In my quick research this morning on PubMed I've found several
> > > research article abstracts (mostly by S. Glick)  that only pertain to 18-MC
> > > being tested only on rats so far.  I'm going to spend some time on the one
> > > site that I subscribe too and see if I can share some full research articles
> > > for the 18-MC, given time I should be able to find hopefully one or two.
> > > I'm so Glad someone suggested this, being on winter break right now I just
> > > have nothing to reasearch! hahahahahaha  I hope this is what you were
> > > looking for.
> > > Happy Holidays to all
> > > Melanie
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 12/19/06, Brad Hays <bradleyheathhays at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey there Sandra.  I'm not exactly a salty dog round these parts,
> > > > but it's good to see such a nice fresh face out there!
> > > >
> > > > You may want to do some more in-depth research into this 18-MC
> > > > (18-methoxycoronaridine)...like gettin your hands on possibly some of the
> > > > primary research articles.  (Now I'm curious too, so's anybody out there got
> > > > links to these kinds of papers?)  You can depend on that most of the
> > > > information you hear on this list concerning ibogaine is the most accurate
> > > > that can be found; many around here have certainly Earned their iboga
> > > > degree.  But 18-MC is a different story.  I may be mistaken (should say that
> > > > twice), but that stuff (apparently closely related, structurally, to
> > > > ibogaine) is not mentioned too often on the list, and I'd venture to say
> > > > that very few of us have seen enough of its practical use that accurate
> > > > information actually could be given of it.  While it seems the 'preliminary
> > > > trial' (as far as street use goes) of iboga has successfully been completed,
> > > > I've yet to see evidence that this phase of use for the 18 has even begun.
> > > > Please give me some guidance everybody if I'm wrong here...and here's to
> > > > hoping that I am.  18-MC hasn't at all proven itself to be bad, it just that
> > > > it hasn't had the three hundred +++ years of recorded use that iboga has had
> > > > to prove itself good.
> > > >
> > > > Welp... gettin me Christmas shoes off sos I can hit the long
> > > > winter's nap...
> > > >
> > > > godspeed kiddo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/18/06, Sandra Karpetas <sandra at ibogatherapyhouse.net > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this mean that 18-MC is available there? I'd like to try
> > > > > it...
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Sandra
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > Re: [Ibogaine] Is Ibo a Schedule 1?
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > Dana Beal <dana at phantom.com>
> > > > > > Date:
> > > > > > Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:55:13 -0500
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > ibogaine at mindvox.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > ibogaine at mindvox.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We would never do that; and we're the only druggies who KNOW
> > > > > about 18-MC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > THAT's why we have a FULL hospital with ER half a block from the
> > > > > > Border in Mexico.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ready to test 18-MC in humans now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dana/cnw
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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