[Ibogaine] 3 grams and going for it?

Brad Hays bradleyheathhays at gmail.com
Tue Dec 5 12:39:18 EST 2006


Oh I didn't hear a thing...whas that?  Thanks Mel

On 12/5/06, Melanie Gutierrez <gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As a skilled nursey type my patent answer would be "check with a Dr. on
> that".  But for myself I would... for sure know all of that myself.  I would
> do all the research I could.  I would have it all written down for the
> sitter after I have already told them how to care for me several times.  See
> where I'm going with this.  I've read sites about off shore clinics and how
> they monitor. The monitoring that I've seen you can only get in a medical
> facility, ECG, oxygen saturation and others.  The major benefit I seen from
> a few pages of clinics was not only the medical management, but also
> the therapy that goes along with the experience after. I believe after care
> emotionally and spiritually would also be most important. Knowing people in
> the medical profession could certainly help especially in the "sitter"
> role. I'm currently, in my free time, looking up if there is anything out
> there about Narcan and if its ever been studied as an antidote for say an
> overdose of Ibo.  So that's me not giving advise :)
>
> Mel
>
>
>  On 12/4/06, Brad Hays <bradleyheathhays at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Melanie.  Been wondering myself what signs a caretaker should know
> > to look for as signs of toxicity.  Should any type of continuous monitoring
> > be done, say, if the equipments available?
> >
> > thx thx
> >
> >
> >  On 12/4/06, BiscuitBoy714 at aol.com < BiscuitBoy714 at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  In a message dated 12/4/2006 5:14:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > captkirk at kol.co.nz writes:
> > >
> > > does ibogaine work on steroids too does it???????????????????????
> > >
> > >  What chu mean by works? Couldn't hoit in my opinion, BUT, people who
> > > have abused steroids have done some pretty severe damage to their body in a
> > > lot of cases. Said person should be REALLY checked out beforehand.Youknow, the blood test for liver function and everything else that can be
> > > ascertained by blood work, EKG, and I would think that a real good look at
> > > kidney function would be in order. I don't know if it is possible to be
> > > physically addicted to steroids or not, but I'm sure one could become
> > > dependant on them. Ya know in thinking of all the complications that could
> > > arise from abusing steroids it seems kind of dangerous to me.You have
> > > me wanting to look at steroid abuse closer as I know some guys in that boat
> > > myself. Whether or not the substance being treated is addictive, I think,
> > > (this is my opinion) that any kind of compulsive action like that could
> > > benefit from an Ibogaine treatment. Be that as it may (freakin' Mellville
> > > has warped me) it would make me nervous to sit with somebody that has done
> > > that kind of damage to themselves without a complete physical, and for that
> > > matter I'd want to talk to his/her doc to make sure I was getting the truth.
> > > Not that I would do something like that or anything, I'm just sayin'. (no
> > > shrug) So I guess I'm really just beating around the bush, or pounding
> > > around the shrubbery, and saying........... I don't really know. (shrug) O
> > > well, I'm just a flake anyway don't listen to me.
> > >          Damn Kirk as soon as I typed 'shrubbery' that Monty Python
> > > scene popped in my head. You know the one? "Weee want some
> > > shrubbery.......shrubbery? .......now that shit will be in my head all day.
> > > Thanx.
> > >         Bring out cha dead.......(bink).........bring out cha
> > > dead.......(bink).......But I'm not dead yet......well ya soon will
> > > be........no really I'm feeling much better......I think I'll go for a
> > > walk........(thud)..................bring out cha dead
> > >               Randy
> > >
> >
> >
>
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