[Ibogaine] Re: Ibogaine Re:NPR(warren)

grasshopper rwd3 at cox.net
Sun Dec 3 14:24:03 EST 2006


eric is an illusive dude..rumors abound,  not sure what his real name is, 
the crafty guy.  he helped and offered to help me much more than i expected, 
as did his partner who i use to be able to get in touch with.  all off list 
, of course ron
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Shriver" <Matt at ITSupport.net>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Re: Ibogaine Re:NPR(warren)


> Hey Warren
> Just out of curiosity, how is it that you got in touch with Eric?  Last 
> year
> sort of around this time I emailed him and got no response.  Someone else 
> I
> know who was treated by him also tried emailing him with no response.  And
> his website also went off the wire as I recall.  There were rumors 
> floating
> around that he had had a patient die too I believe, although they were 
> never
> substantiated that I am aware.  Peace
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wleetheriot [mailto:wleetheriot at ca.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:05 AM
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Re: Ibogaine Re:NPR(warren)
>
> Ron,
>   I thought it over again, saw a few videos and the movie Syriana
> and decided not to sweat it. I won't give you a stiff neck with too
> much to read
> of wierdness, and I can hardly type the way my neck feels now anyway
> with one hand only. Chapter 15 of The Ibogaine Story and the video
> with David Lynch last night got me to think about what I ought to do
> for therapy also, like meditation. And that my thoughts will sort
> themselves
> out like what Eric Taub told me about with Ibogaine. Benzo's won't be
> a problem because I won't have a habit when I take Ibogaine. I'm sure
> that it
> wouldn't hurt after, but why not see how bright I might feel for once
> in a long time after the treatment? Eric was telling me that they
> have a really
> good place in Mexico so I don't expect it to be like the treatment
> center I almost went to 3 years ago in Pomona. I should have been on
> the list
> then and taken Ibogaine then.
> Peace,
> Warren
>
> On Dec 2, 2006, at 9:37 PM, grasshopper wrote:
>
>> damn warren,  this thing you wrote locked my neck up.  ron
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "wleetheriot"
>> <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com>
>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 4:03 PM
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] Re: Ibogaine Re:NPR
>>
>>
>>> I heard Dimitri this morning on NPR on KCRW, Santa Monica.
>>> So once again I heard a reference to seizures and that benzo's
>>> may have been the cause for one patient.
>>> How long do you have to be off Valium before safely taking
>>> Ibogaine. I know that if one has an operation where a muscle
>>> relaxant like some curare analog is used, at the same time
>>> as a barbiturate for deep anesthesia and the patient is not
>>> honest with the doctor about the meds taken before the operation
>>> one can wake up paralized in pain and not be able to communicate
>>> to the doctor that they need more pentathol to knock them back out.
>>>
>>> I read chapter 15 again of The Ibogaine Story about brainwaves
>>> and somewhere about dreams being stimulated from the cerubellum
>>> or brainstem area. Whether or not that is the result of Kappa Opioid
>>> activity as a result of Ibogaine, I don't know, but that sounds
>>> the same
>>> as a component of the  subjective experience of Salvia D, which
>>> is  almost
>>> exclusively a Kappa agonist. Ibogaine seems to really clean house,
>>> where
>>> Salvia is kind of like an appetizer for what can really be
>>> unlocked from
>>> one's mind. Still with all the experience reports, I am unsure of
>>> what to expect.
>>> I don't want to be stuck with the thoughts that come dredging up
>>> after smoking
>>> cannabis and I don't want to be tied/glued to a virtual ceiling of
>>> rationality like
>>> LSD can do where the only thing that seems that will happen next
>>> is  that one is
>>> left with a sense of vertigo and fear and uncertainly until that
>>> phase of the
>>> trip ends by itself.
>>> Got to finish as my neck is locking up in a spasm.
>>> Peace,
>>> Warren
>>>
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