[Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help

tink tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com
Tue Aug 8 16:38:14 EDT 2006


A friend of mine has a map on his wall, made by a mutual friend, that
has North America broken into two countries, seperated by blue and red
colouring.The northern country is blue, and includes all of Canada,
Maine, Vermont, NH, all the way down to Delware I think, and almost
all of the border states.  It's been renamed the United States of
Canada.  Everything south is red and has been renamed Jesusland.  I
would rather live in the US of C ANY DAY!!!!!
tink
On 8/6/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, all I've ever heard about Canada, is that its great and its boring!
> Personally, I believe the former and I'm not just scmooozing!
>
> Ed.
>
>
> >From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 01:51:24 -0400
> >
> >The alcohol prices about half hour south (in Portsmouth)are tax free,
> >as well as the cigarettes (live free or die in New Hampshire) and
> >there are fireworks, so people stop at the conveniently located drive
> >up state liquor stores that are on THE HIGHWAY before coming slightly
> >more north to litter on our once pristine beaches, stomp on our plover
> >population, and not tip at our over-priced restaurants that all serve-
> >including Mc Donald's- some form of lobster roll. If you get really
> >lucky, you can play a new game that we've recently developed called,
> >"septua,octo, or novae- genarian drivers and their cell phones; rear
> >end 'em and flee or invest in that rocket launcher and mini tank I
> >want so very badly".  if this isn't enough excitement for you, there's
> >always time for a rousing round of "translate that Quebecois french
> >and respond without insulting the Canadian", which i lose at on a
> >regular basis.  No offense in any serious manner aimed at the elderly,
> >Canadians, people from Massachusetts and Connecticut or drunken
> >housewives and their miserable families. We need your money to pay our
> >rent.
> >It really is lovely here and not nearly as bad as I'm making it out ot
> >be (it gets FAR WORSE!!!). Too many people, not enough road.
> >Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaawn....
> >tink
> >
> >On 8/5/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>Sounds like pure holiday heaven.
> >>
> >>Reminds me of my childhood on the costa del sol, Norweigens migrating
> >>following the scent of low alcohol prices. Beautiful!
> >>
> >>Ed.
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> >> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:15:06 -0400
> >> >
> >> >Pray for a fjord of raspberry lambic and some decent cheese and
> >> >crackers, maybe a nice pinot noir pond, and I'm there. I am currently
> >> >surrounded by over-priced lobster and pre-stroke Massholes and
> >> >Conneticunts.  One man I was unfortunate to sit near on the beach the
> >> >other day actually was screaming at his family that he had "less than
> >> >72 hours to relax and enjoy myself, and time stops for no man, so shut
> >> >up, sit down, and start fucking having some gawddam FUN!!!"  It was
> >> >7:30 am, and his wife was half way through a bottle of chardonnay, and
> >> >two of the three children, all under 12, were crying.  lovely man,
> >> >truly.
> >> >Other than the people like that (and not everyone is, though if i were
> >> >to admit that publically, I would probably be drawn and quartered) it
> >> >is beautiful here on the southern coastal tip of Maine.  I'm moving to
> >> >Portland, I think, and it's a  nice little city(when i'm in a good
> >> >mood and there's no snow). Lotsa freaks.
> >> >tink
> >> >
> >> >On 8/2/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>North east of england, if you look closely from here out to sea across
> >> >>toward Norway, you can see our heating bills rising, and if you have a
> >>set
> >> >>of binoculars you might also see the last of the cod stocks. Someone
> >>once
> >> >>said there was a butter mountain and a wine lake, but this has never
> >>been
> >> >>proven, alas, as I'm really not a margarine fan.
> >> >>
> >> >>Ed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> >> >> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:48:38 -0400
> >> >> >
> >> >> >lololol...tinkerplosions are by no means puffy, cute, or fungi-laden
> >> >> >(they'd BETTER
> >> >> >not be!!!), tend to be on the messy side, and usually end with some
> >> >> >sort of chocolate ice cream post-blast.
> >> >> >Whither art thou?
> >> >> >I'm in Maine
> >> >> >tink
> >> >> >On 8/2/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>I like your humour and honesty. A tinkerplosion sounds like
> >>something
> >> >> >>which
> >> >> >>might look like a puffball. I don't know if you get them state side,
> >> >>but
> >> >> >>over here there a big ball of fungi spores and as kids to find one
> >>was
> >> >>a
> >> >> >>gift. As you kicked them or flicked them off the ground at your
> >>mates
> >> >>they
> >> >> >>would puff out all this magical powder, hopefully all over them!. I
> >> >>like
> >> >> >>that .
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Ed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:01:04 -0400
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I'm being totally irreverent and nonsensical- very heavy week.  i
> >> >> >> >splurt things like this from time to time as a small pressure
> >> >>release,
> >> >> >> >lest i snap permanently(It's actually far too late for that, I
> >> >> >> >suppose).  I gotcher point- and don't disagree- being an anxious
> >> >> >> >person, particularly at the moment.
> >> >> >> >Tranquillo, papichulo.  it's merely a tinkerplosion....
> >> >> >> >;]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 8/1/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>methinks you miss the point.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Ed.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:37:00 -0400
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >On 8/1/06, edward conn <wardconn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>Hi Guys,
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>interresting thread, I'd just to add and I think this is a
> >>trap
> >> >> >>thatI
> >> >> >> >>fall
> >> >> >> >> >>into, believeing thatmy anxiety is some sort of finite pool
> >> >>thatif I
> >> >> >> >>drain
> >> >> >> >> >>enohg off from, I won't have any left. But listening to your
> >> >>thread
> >> >> >> >>here,
> >> >> >> >> >>my
> >> >> >> >> >>rationale kicks in and I can recall, that of course it can't
> >>be
> >> >>like
> >> >> >> >>that
> >> >> >> >> >>only because anxiety is also a source of information telling
> >>us
> >> >> >> >>something.
> >> >> >> >> >>That is, it can inform us a situation is dangerous, or in a
> >>more
> >> >> >>long
> >> >> >> >>term
> >> >> >> >> >>place like work, or lack of work, arenaline is still being
> >> >>relaeased
> >> >> >> >> >>aswell
> >> >> >> >> >>as other stress hormones, telling us we are unhappy, or that
> >>we
> >> >>are
> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >> >>danger. Adrenaline gives us the fight or flight
> >>response...move
> >> >>on,
> >> >> >>but
> >> >> >> >>if
> >> >> >> >> >>we don't know where to go or we sit in its flood of anxiety we
> >> >>get
> >> >> >>all
> >> >> >> >> >>welled up and stressed out. So recognising it is a very
> >>imortant
> >> >>way
> >> >> >>of
> >> >> >> >> >>reducing this flooding effect that can overwhelm or drain us.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Quite seperate to this are the type of anxieties which have
> >> >>become
> >> >> >> >>lodged
> >> >> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >> >>us as a result of a singular trauma, but generally these will
> >> >>only
> >> >> >>be
> >> >> >> >>cued
> >> >> >> >> >>by the awareness of something similar. This can be something
> >>as
> >> >> >>obvious
> >> >> >> >>as
> >> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >>snake, or less obvious as an authority figure, which again we
> >>get
> >> >> >> >> >>conditioned to as part of our socialisation process.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>So I think, it's important to remeber that environmentally and
> >> >> >> >>internally
> >> >> >> >> >>we
> >> >> >> >> >>are wired to all sorts of cues, both attractors and repelants.
> >> >> >>Tracking
> >> >> >> >> >>our
> >> >> >> >> >>awareness and response to these as we go about our general
> >>lives
> >> >>can
> >> >> >>be
> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >>good way of maintaining constant vigilance over the quality
> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >>understanding of our lives, and go to some degree through
> >> >>awakening
> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> >> >>awareness toward the continual depletion of the control these
> >> >>cues,
> >> >> >> >> >>conditioning experinces or imprints have over us.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Our boundaries as human beings are porous, and as I'm sure we
> >>all
> >> >> >>have
> >> >> >> >> >>experinced here, something as slight or seemingly slight can
> >> >>cause
> >> >> >>us
> >> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> >> >>react. Or to put that another way, someones words when I am
> >>not
> >> >>in a
> >> >> >> >> >>neutral
> >> >> >> >> >>space have the power to touch me in a vulnerable place and
> >>cause
> >> >>me
> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> >> >>react, by shooting up a defense. Of course to protect myself.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>That brings me to mention the importance of these defenses,
> >> >>without
> >> >> >> >>them
> >> >> >> >> >>we
> >> >> >> >> >>would not have survived and in surviving we have also acquired
> >> >> >> >>collateral
> >> >> >> >> >>damage.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Like Geigers bio-mechanics, we are a combination of organic
> >>soft
> >> >> >>matter
> >> >> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >>rigid industrial strength, constantly moving, repairing, and
> >> >> >>growing.
> >> >> >> >> >>Aswell
> >> >> >> >> >>as being threatened, or seemingly threatened?!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>I think what this perspective gives us is the ability to
> >>mutate
> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >>change
> >> >> >> >> >>with demands as wee as drives.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Ed.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >From: "Luke Christoffersen" <luke.christoffersen at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >> >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:50:19 +0100
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi Warren,
> >> >> >> >> >> >              It's possible that ibogaine could deal with
> >>the
> >> >> >>source
> >> >> >> >> >> >of your anxiety, it could make you more anxious as the
> >>feelings
> >> >> >>under
> >> >> >> >> >> >it surface.
> >> >> >> >> >> >             That's a bummer being kicked out of your
> >>creative
> >> >> >> >> >> >environment, it seems mostly Asians doing traditional
> >>animation
> >> >> >>these
> >> >> >> >> >> >days.  I was lucky, I got kicked out of a completely
> >>uncreative
> >> >> >> >> >> >environment that was torture for me.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Luke
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >On 7/30/06, Warren Lee Theriot <wleetheriot at comcast.net>
> >>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ok, here's a question: Will Ibogaine take away the anxiety
> >>is
> >> >> >>very
> >> >> >> >> >> >>much a part of withdrawal symptoms? The anxiety lasts long
> >> >>after
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>detox is over. I found SSRI's only provoke anxiety without
> >>a
> >> >> >>solid
> >> >> >> >> >> >>social infrastructure built around myself. Trycyclic Elavil
> >>is
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>antidepressant of choice for now. After finding my best
> >>friend
> >> >> >>dead
> >> >> >> >> >> >>of an OD, I took prozac for a long time. I seemed almost as
> >>if
> >> >>I
> >> >> >>was
> >> >> >> >> >> >>holding on to "Dumbo's Feather" [reference to Disney at the
> >> >>time]
> >> >> >> >> >> >>After working 6 years at Disney, being in an environment
> >>that
> >> >>was
> >> >> >> >> >> >>really creatively inspiring, and then getting kicked out
> >> >>because
> >> >> >>of
> >> >> >> >> >> >>the usual budget cuts, I was depressed more than ever and I
> >> >> >>became
> >> >> >> >> >> >>constantly anxious. ["Dumbo's Circus" was no longer to be,
> >>so
> >> >> >>what
> >> >> >> >> >> >>good was the feather?]  The my brother and another best
> >>friend
> >> >> >>took
> >> >> >> >> >> >>their own lives.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Then the neighbors got that devil hound and it was 3 years
> >>of
> >> >> >>hell
> >> >> >> >> >> >>before my built-up anger resulted in 2 years of 24 hour
> >>trace
> >> >> >>music
> >> >> >> >> >> >>bass/drum beating into the ground to get the neighbors to
> >>move
> >> >> >>away.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Yelling and legal maneuvers had no immediate effects. The
> >>only
> >> >> >> >> >> >>psychedelic that was ever truly happiness was magic
> >>mushrooms
> >> >>for
> >> >> >> >>me.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>I still can remember the absurdity of the world that was
> >>shown
> >> >>to
> >> >> >>me
> >> >> >> >> >> >>during those fleeting moments years ago. Too bad I just
> >>can't
> >> >> >>turn
> >> >> >> >>my
> >> >> >> >> >> >>feelings around at will that easy right now that way and
> >>laugh
> >> >>at
> >> >> >> >> >> >>what the  Powers that be are doing at the moment. Maybe
> >> >>Ibogaine
> >> >> >> >> >> >>would help the addicts in Iran instead of feeding them lead
> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >> >>uranium from the skys as is now in the works. Maybe the
> >> >>world's
> >> >> >> >> >> >>leaders should take a 2-week-long Ibogaine retreat and
> >>develop
> >> >> >>some
> >> >> >> >> >> >>new coping skills.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Warren
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Jul 29, 2006, at 5:06 PM, kevin youngquist wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Nick and Luke:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I did my share of acid when I was younger, and was
> >>amazed
> >> >>by
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > insights.  However, that knowledge was fleeting, and
> >>over
> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >>years
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > have realized that real change never comes without hard
> >> >>work.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Unfortunately, as thing sit now, my job doesn't allow me
> >> >>the
> >> >> >>time
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > or financial wherewithal to go into intensive
> >>psychotherapy
> >> >> >>(and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > let's face it, good shrinks are few and far between).
> >>So,
> >> >>I
> >> >> >>need
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to make do as best I can.  Ibogaine may or may not be
> >> >>what's
> >> >> >> >>needed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > - nothing ventured, nothing gained - I'm just hoping to
> >> >>live
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > rest of my life as a better function person.
> >> >>Enlightenment
> >> >> >> >>aside:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don't mind chopping wood and carrying water, as long
> >>as
> >> >>I'm
> >> >> >>not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > miserable for no particular reason while doing it.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks, Kevin
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:14:30 +0100
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, it's true ibogaine changed my outlook on life some
> >> >>from
> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> first
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> experience. Though maybe Kev's done plenty of
> >> >>psychoactives
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> anyway. I don't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> know. I actually meant more the feeling of blissful
> >>warmth
> >> >> >>that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> kind of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lingers for a week or so post-ibogaine, but then wears
> >> >>off.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nick
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: Luke Christoffersen
> >> >> >> >>[mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sent: 29 July 2006 17:23
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > HI Nick
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > There are some changes that happen also in brain
> >> >> >>chemistry,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> but they
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > don't last long.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'd have to disagree with you there.  I think the
> >> >>changes
> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >> >>brain
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > chemistry for better or worse are permanent.  how
> >>much
> >> >> >>maybe
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> depends
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > on your own awereness of youself and how much it
> >>opens
> >> >>you
> >> >> >>up.
> >> >> >> >>  I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > would think any psychedelic would have permanet
> >>changes
> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >>brain
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > chemistry on some level.  Even after an LSD trip
> >>you're
> >> >> >>never
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> really
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the same as you were before
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > So, the way I see it, it will really come back to you
> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > where you actually want to go. Do you want more
> >> >>stability
> >> >> >>or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are you more
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > happy swinging between extremes?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It probably takes some time to get to the cause of
> >>mood
> >> >> >>swings
> >> >> >> >> >>but
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yeah  wanting to change is probably the best place to
> >> >> >>start.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > #luke
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From: kevin youngquist
> >> >>[mailto:jungkvist at hotmail.com]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Sent: 29 July 2006 16:08
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Nick:  I've done years in NA/AA, a brief stay in
> >>the
> >> >> >> >>psych-
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ward, and a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > good-number of fairly pedestrian sessions with
> >> >>social
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> workers and a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > psychiatrist.  It seems that (at least at the
> >>level
> >> >>I
> >> >> >>can
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > afford) therapy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > consists mostly of giving out SSRIs and
> >>preventing
> >> >> >> >>suicides,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> but not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > effecting much real change - at least that's the
> >>way
> >> >> >> >>things
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> seem
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > here in the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > States.  Don't get me wrong, SSRIs are lots
> >>better
> >> >>than
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> baying at
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > the moon -
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > but, call me selfish, I'd like more.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Thanks for writing back - any help will be
> >>greatly
> >> >> >> >> >>appreciated.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Kevin
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs
> >>help
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:17:37 +0100
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >Hey Geezer,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >What therapy stuff did you do so far?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >Nick
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > From: kevin youngquist
> >> >> >>[mailto:jungkvist at hotmail.com]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Sent: 25 July 2006 04:26
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Subject: [Ibogaine] Lunatic Geezer needs help
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Dear One and All,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > I'm throwing up a jump-ball here; so anyone
> >>who
> >> >> >>wants
> >> >> >> >>to,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > have at it.  I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > quit drinking and doing drugs 16 years ago,
> >>but
> >> >>I'm
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> still a mess.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Apparently I didn't need substances to be off
> >>my
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> rocker.  At
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > fifty two,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > still find myself going around in mental
> >> >>circles:
> >> >> >> >>can't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > decisions, hung
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > up on moral imperatives, beset with doubts,
> >>lots
> >> >>of
> >> >> >> >>time
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> spent in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > existential crises
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm essentially Wily Coyote, without the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> quick
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > recovery
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > time.  There are reasons for all this: a gene
> >> >>pool
> >> >> >> >>that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > make Charles
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Manson kill hes genealogist, and a childhood
> >> >>that
> >> >> >> >>reads
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Frank McCourt
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > novel (Angela's Ashes)
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Did I mention that I tend to bitch and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > feel sorry for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > myself?  I
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > I'm now traveling the lower 48, driving and
> >> >>living
> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> truck
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > (taking over
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > the world didn't quite work out) consequently
> >>my
> >> >> >>job
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > allow time for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > conventional therapy (besides, I've dated
> >> >> >> >>psychologists:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > loonies, every
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > one),  So, I want to know if ibogaine can do
> >> >> >>anything
> >> >> >> >>for
> >> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >dysfunctional
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > and fragmented personality
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > How about it?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Thanks: Charlie Marlow
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN
> >>Messenger!
> >> >> >> >>Download
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> today -
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > it's FREE!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >>http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direct/01/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > /]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >>[%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > \]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >/]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=--------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >[%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >\]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=--------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger!
> >> >>Download
> >> >> >> >>today
> >> >> >> >> >>-
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > it's FREE!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > /]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > \]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>   /]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>=--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>   \]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>=--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> >> >>http://
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >  /]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > =[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > [%] Ibogaine List Commands: http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >  \]
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>=---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > =[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >> >> >> >> >[%]
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >> >> >> >[%]
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >> >> >[%]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >> >[%]
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >> >>
> >> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >> >[%]
> >> >
> >> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >>  [%] Ibogaine List Commands:
> >>http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html [%]
> >>
> >>\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >/]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[\
> >[%] Ibogaine List Commands: http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/IbogaineList.html
> >[%]
> >
> >\]=---------------------------------------------------------------------=[/
> >
> >
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