Fw: [Ibogaine] Whipping therapy cures depression and suicide crises

Nick Sandberg nick227 at tiscali.co.uk
Tue Mar 29 11:28:55 EST 2005



> -----Original Message-----
> From: slowone at hush.ai [mailto:slowone at hush.ai]
> Sent: 29 March 2005 09:00
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Subject: Re: Fw: [Ibogaine] Whipping therapy cures depression and
> suicide crises
>
>
> "Beatings will continue until morale improves."
>
> I hate to be the one to say this, but it is conceivable that the
> endorphins released by pain - or its cessation - do indeed have a
> temporary, positive affect on mood. Like the person who cuts
> him/her self to feel control of (at least one component of) the
> pain they normally feel, some people may find a mundane physical
> pain a big enough distraction from whatever issues got them into
> painkillers in the first place that they can let go of painkillers
> more easily.
>
> Nick, would you be ok with this? I'm skeptical that this treatment
> could ever be administered in a truly clinical way.
>

Sounds like it would appeal to Christians. I don't believe this guy's name
is Speransky, though.

Nick

>
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:25:24 -0800 HSLotsof at aol.com wrote:
> >Hi Preston,
> >
> >Why stop at drug use.  The technology would seem to be a deterrent
>
> >for
> >democratic principals as well, freedom of speech, etc.
> >
> >http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/360/15176_whipping.html
> >
> >Howard
> >
> >In a message dated 3/28/05 8:27:58 PM, ptpeet at nyc.rr.com writes:
> >
> >>you've got to be kidding, right?
> >>
> >>I mean, the whole "beating people bloody for long periods of time
>
> >raises
> >>dopamine levels" certainly does sound scientific and all, but
> >somehow I'm
> >>just not quite buying this one either.
> >>
> >>"Please, beat the addiction out of me, make me happy with pain!"
> >LOL, errrr,
> >>I can think of some places where you can get it done free here in
>
> >Manhattan,
> >>and other places where prices would probably be cheaper than in
> >some "let's
> >>beat the shit outta them there junkies" establishments.-
> >
> >
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