Fw: [Ibogaine] Whipping therapy cures depression and suicide crises

Sara Glatt sara119 at xs4all.nl
Tue Mar 29 04:13:47 EST 2005


Laughing a lot will do the same, and is humane.




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Van: slowone at hush.ai [mailto:slowone at hush.ai] 
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 maart 2005 10:00
Aan: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Onderwerp: Re: Fw: [Ibogaine] Whipping therapy cures depression and suicide
crises

"Beatings will continue until morale improves."

I hate to be the one to say this, but it is conceivable that the 
endorphins released by pain - or its cessation - do indeed have a 
temporary, positive affect on mood. Like the person who cuts 
him/her self to feel control of (at least one component of) the 
pain they normally feel, some people may find a mundane physical 
pain a big enough distraction from whatever issues got them into 
painkillers in the first place that they can let go of painkillers 
more easily.

Nick, would you be ok with this? I'm skeptical that this treatment 
could ever be administered in a truly clinical way.


On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:25:24 -0800 HSLotsof at aol.com wrote:
>Hi Preston,
>
>Why stop at drug use.  The technology would seem to be a deterrent 

>for 
>democratic principals as well, freedom of speech, etc.
>
>http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/360/15176_whipping.html
>
>Howard
>
>In a message dated 3/28/05 8:27:58 PM, ptpeet at nyc.rr.com writes:
>
>>you've got to be kidding, right?
>>
>>I mean, the whole "beating people bloody for long periods of time 

>raises
>>dopamine levels" certainly does sound scientific and all, but 
>somehow I'm
>>just not quite buying this one either.
>>
>>"Please, beat the addiction out of me, make me happy with pain!" 
>LOL, errrr,
>>I can think of some places where you can get it done free here in 

>Manhattan,
>>and other places where prices would probably be cheaper than in 
>some "let's
>>beat the shit outta them there junkies" establishments.-
>
>
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