[Ibogaine] Report -
ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Sat Jul 23 10:56:07 EDT 2005
>If it helps any, I have similar experiences with ibogaine. The run up to
taking it, it seems like a really good idea. I have lots of reasons to do
it. Then, when it starts coming on, it's like "Fuck! Why have I done this
again? Why? I said I wasn't going to do this any more! And now I've got 30
fucking hours of this shit!" This was exactly what it was like, each time
after the first.<
Gotta pretty much agree, although the last couple times, knowing I wasn't
taking a full "treatment" dose, I didn't feel that trepidation after eating
the dose (or injesting however the case may be) that I did the first three
times, thinking each of those times I was taking a real treatment dose, and
felt that exact same, "oh shit, why have I done this again," and "now I've
got 30 fucking hours of this shit" going through my head- but the visiual
states haven't always been stressful by any means, even the really rough
ones, not entirely anyway. Some have been real humdingers, but some have
been pure bliss.
Peace and love,
"Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often
mistaken for madness"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Report -
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: darkmattersfo at comcast.net [mailto:darkmattersfo at comcast.net]
>> Sent: 19 July 2005 02:15
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] Report -
>> A couple of months ago I did a full session of Ibo, and recently
>> I did "mini' session of (i think) 9 mg/k. I think the full
>> session was 17mg/k
>> It was not as mellow as I thought it would be. I had visions that
>> were quite disturbing (like the first time.) I don't know if this
>> is common, but I do have to admit that my internal landscape is
>> quite fearful.
>> Much of what I experienced the first time was repeated, but I
>> remember more of it this time. Shortly after starting and the
>> visions were going I thought "what the fuck am I doing". I guess
>> I thought it would be more cognitive processing, but there was
>> almost the same level of visuals involved.
>> I didn't take any anti-naseua medication like i did the first
>> time, but highly recommend it.
>> The first session was quite intense, and the dopamine influx (i
>> guess it was an influx) put me in a zen like state for almost a
>> month. This time, the affect was smaller but no less impressive
>> I got alot out of this session. But I must admit it is not
>> pleasant. I would find it difficult to recommend this to anyone
>> based on my experience. It was worth it to me though.
> Hey DM,
> If it helps any, I have similar experiences with ibogaine. The run up to
> taking it, it seems like a really good idea. I have lots of reasons to do
> it. Then, when it starts coming on, it's like "Fuck! Why have I done this
> again? Why? I said I wasn't going to do this any more! And now I've got 30
> fucking hours of this shit!" This was exactly what it was like, each time
> after the first.
> I've never had blissful trips on ibogaine, it all seems to be just
> processing and processing more negativity, or, more accurately, stuff I
> don't want to see or feel. Personally, I think this is OK and actually
> pretty healthy. In psychology, the main reason for using psychoactives in
> therapy is to break the stranglehold of the ego-dominated mind, deciding
> what it does and doesn't want to feel; to allow repressed material to come
> out. Thus, it's pretty much inevitable that what is repressed will be
> experienced as being unpleasant, as the mind doesn't repressed stuff it
> likes, it's only all the "bad shit" (or so it's labelled) that get thrown
> the cupboard.
> All the best
> ps - you might wanna consider changing your moniker, darkmattersfo doesn't
> exactly set one up for a good time maybe.
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