[Ibogaine] Vision problems/solutions post-Ibo

Jasen Chamoun jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au
Mon Jan 31 22:40:27 EST 2005


Hey Martee,

 I find my vision and all my other senses still tuning in.
For about 2 to 3 weeks after my treatment I also
experienced my eyes bluring.

                                   love,
                                  Jasen.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "m.finman" <mafinman at optonline.net>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Vision problems/solutions post-Ibo


> Howard,
>        I believe I did the ibogaine HCL.  I was treated in that  wave last 
> summer.  Bone density test had definitley crossed my mind.  Maybe an eye 
> exam as well.  I am still reading ok with the same reading perscription I 
> got a couple of years ago, however without them I am seeing less small 
> print than I used to.  This large print appears blurry to me without the 
> reading glasses.  On the other hand my far sight is still really sharp. I 
> actually have a few theories of my own and will be delighted if any of 
> them pan out. Thank you so much for your response.  Any and all info is 
> appreciated.
>                                                           Martee
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <HSLotsof at aol.com>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Vision problems/solutions post-Ibo
>
>
>> Hi Martee,
>>
>> What form of iboga/ibogaine did you and your brother use?  Possibly your
>> vision, like other aspects of your physiology had just deteriorated. 
>> Possibly,
>> opiates constricting your pupils allowed greater depth of field and once 
>> that
>> effect of the opioids was gone well, glasses were next.  I know of one 
>> person
>> who wore glasses since a youth and was able to give them up for twenty 
>> years
>> post ibogaine.  But, then that doesn't make sense with your brother since 
>> his
>> vision returned to "normal" some weeks later.  I hadn't heard of such an 
>> effect
>> previously from ibogaine as deteriorated vision.
>>
>> As for bones you might want to have a bone densitometry test to see what
>> state they are in.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/31/05 12:14:55 PM, mafinman at optonline.net writes:
>>
>> << Julie and all,
>>
>>      The vision thing is a big issue with me.  Unlike yourself I didn't
>>
>> require reading glasses until 10 years ago,( by then many years into 
>> using)
>>
>> however after the ibo I noticed my reading vision has deteriorated. The
>>
>> other day I had to ask my young nephew to read my fortune from the 
>> fortune
>>
>> cookie. To me it looked like a solid line.  He swore to me it said "today 
>> is
>>
>> a good day to buy a present for someone you love !'  Anyway, this vision
>>
>> thing is one of the main reasons I am hesitant to try another session. 
>> Parts
>>
>> of me desperately would like to do it again and then the other part wants 
>> to
>>
>> watch and see the natural progression of coming off and out from under 
>> the
>>
>> effects of having taking ibogaine/being on methedone and heroin for over 
>> 20
>>
>> years.  My brother-in-law had fuzzy vision for a good 2-3 weeks after his
>>
>> session.
>>
>>          The sleeping thing:  I'm coming up on six months out and for me
>>
>> about 6 weeks ago when I got my treadmill and starting using it really
>>
>> regularly is when I started to sleep through the night.  About 10 days 
>> ago I
>>
>> wacked out my left knee on the treadmill from either too much incline 
>> work
>>
>> or enthusiasm.  The mind was willing. I have to learn that moderation 
>> thing
>>
>> people keep telling me about. Since I have been laying off the treadmill 
>> I
>>
>> have been waking up after 5- hours sleep, awake for 1-2 hours and then
>>
>> resuming for another 2 hours.
>>
>>        Another thing for me to consider, since my right elbow seems to be
>>
>> creaking a bit as well is this me just now noticing damage and aches and
>>
>> pains from all those years of methedone (which as Preston pointed out was 
>> an
>>
>> amazing pain killer). You know how all the oldtimers on the programs are
>>
>> walking with canes. While I did a lot of damage control at times, with my
>>
>> diet, I feel a lot of those brittle bones form methedone can be  partly 
>> from
>>
>> malnutrition.
>>
>>          The thing you also mentioned about dreams and memories,  I'm 
>> also
>>
>> feeling like I am clearing a lot of old memories and  past life stuff 
>> that's
>>
>> been a thorn in my side thanks to the iboga.
>>
>>        I'd like to wait a while to see if there really is a such thing as
>>
>> "normal".
>>
>>       So I'm just real curious what's coming next as far as the 
>> progression
>>
>> goes without complicating it with coming off of another session.
>>
>> Although.... >>
>>
>>
>>
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