[Ibogaine] 5-HTP

Brett Calabrese bcalabrese at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 28 15:53:48 EST 2005


Try http://qhi.co.uk/ for ordering REAL l-tryptophan
and other goodies.  

Brett

--- jon <jfreed1 at umbc.edu> wrote:

> 
> l-tryptophan is a better choice if you can get hold
> of it, as 5-htp
> doesn't cross the brain barrier as readily. that
> isn't to say 5-htp is
> useless necessarily, but tryptophan is certainly
> more effective.
> 
> unfortuntely in the US, there was a bad batch that
> came in a couple
> decades ago, i forget exactly what it was
> contaminated with, but
> somethinng that led to eosinophilia-myalgia
> syndrome, an auto-immune
> disorder, that affected a number of people exposed
> to it. being its
> typical logicl self (note sarcasm) the US govt
> banned the sale of pure
> tryptophan supplements, and of course didn't reverse
> the ban when it came
> out that it wasn't the tryptophan itself that caused
> the problems. you
> can, however, still buy tryptophan legally in the US
> in amino acid complex
> supplements (ones that have multiple amino acids),
> and in bulk.
> 
> > 5htp is good but I've been told that tit takes a
> couple of weeks to have
> > an effect  like most anti-depressants...
> > My understanding is that 5 htp is a precursor to
> serotonin, but only if
> > you are eating right and getting the right
> nutrients and such...
> > Another to try out maybe is L-Tryptophan...(5htp
> is 5 hydroxytryptophan)
> > my local nutritionist informed me that this is a
> more direct precursor to
> > serotonin and I did  notice a significant
> difference after taking this one
> > with a nice regiment of vitamins and minerals and
> such. I take 500mg with
> > meals, 2-3 times a day... If it makes you sleepy
> you can take 2 x 100mg at
> > bedtime.
> > I've taken 5htp before and noticed(maybe?) a
> difference, but I recently
> > came off of effexor (a SNRI) while taking the
> l-tryptophan, and I haven't
> > felt clearer in a while... A nice change after
> being on anti-depressants
> > for the last 2 years.
> > thats my 2 cents
> >
> >
> >   >From: "Kirsty Sutherland"  >Reply-To:
> ibogaine at mindvox.com >To:
> > >Subject: RE: [Ibogaine]  5-HTP
> >>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:23:58 +130>
> >   >Thank you for that…..and it would be nice for
> you if you could find out
> > >about taking both…perhaps ask the doc?  We have
> different names for
> > drugs >over here, so I have no idea what people
> are talking about
> > unless I do a >websearch!  Prozac is about the
> only commonly named
> > drug.  I take something >called Aropax, which
> isn’t as full on as
> > prozac and I’ve had no side effects >apart from
> sleep and appetite (but
> > hey, coffee and cigs get me thru the day! >Lol) >
> >Will look into this
> > 5 htp…. > >Kirk > > > >    _____ > >From:
> thethird at myway.com
> > [mailto:thethird at myway.com] >Sent: Thursday, 27
> January 2005 5:21 a.m.
> > >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com >Subject: RE: [Ibogaine]
> 5-HTP > > > > >Hey
> > Kirsty, >I take 100 mgs of 5htp in the morning and
> I have noticed a
> > difference in the >levels of my anxiety and
> depression. But, if I try
> > and remember back to when >I was on zoloft I would
> say that zoloft made
> > more of a difference. In fact, >because I get such
> bad panic attacks
> > during school I am thinking about going >back on
> something like zoloft,
> > at least until I get settled back into the
> >routine of being in class.
> > I'm thinking about decreasing the 5htp, but am a
> >little nervous about
> > it, but I assume that I have to stop taking it if
> I go >back on zoloft.
> > There was an interesting book out awhile ago about
> 5htp and >it
> > explained how much to take for certain problems,
> but I can't remember
> > the >name of it. I will try looking for it, and I
> can look something up
> > in it if >there is any info that you'd like to
> know. > > > > > >--- On
> > Tue 01/25, Kirsty Sutherland < captkirk at kol.co.nz
> > wrote: > >From:
> > Kirsty Sutherland [mailto: captkirk at kol.co.nz]
> >To:
> > ibogaine at mindvox.com >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005
> 14:57:38 +1300 >Subject:
> > RE: [Ibogaine] 5-HTP > >Thank you muchly...will
> look into it (for
> > depression at the mo...) >:o) >Kirk >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Ms Iboga [mailto:ms_iboga at yahoo.com] >Sent:
> Wednesday, 26
> > January 2005 7:04 a.m. >To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >Subject: [Ibogaine]
> > 5-HTP > >hi Kirk, > >Here is a link to a short,
> concise description of
> > >5HTP: >http://www.biopsychiatry.com/5-htp.htm >
> >5-HTP is the chemical
> > precursor to serotonin. I took >one capsule about
> 24 hours after my
> > treatment, and >could swear I felt some of the
> Ibogaine's effects come
> > >back. > >Julie > > >
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