[Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism

Nick Sandberg nick227 at tiscali.co.uk
Thu Jan 27 04:37:37 EST 2005



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ....Ken [mailto:chayco at island.net]
> Sent: 27 January 2005 02:08
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism
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> > >
> > > So the prohibitionists are acting as agents of a higher world
> > > conciousness.
> >
> > Unconsciously, yes!
> >
> > > Good to know that.
> > > Granted heroin hasn't been around all that long, but still, opium
> > > has and if
> > > one does enough of it the effects are remarkably similar to
> heroin. Were
> > > those who used it for the thousands upon thousands of years
> for so many
> > > different reasons wrong after all? So if our use of this and other
> > > substances was so wrong, how in the heck did we manage to
> evolve so far
> > > along then?
> > >
> >
> > Preston, man, you'll have to just wait and watch it all happen.
> >
> > Evolution is not a linear process, it goes on in leaps and
> bounds and it's
> > starting to leap up a bit now. When I saw the response in Europe to the
> > tsunami disaster it was obvious to me that stuff was really
> changing. When
> > people who ten years ago couldn't give a shit start throwing their money
> out
> > to people they don't even know in that way you know consciousness is
> really
> > shifting gears. Yes, we experience life as being something that's
> happening
> > to the personal me, but underneath that it's just consciousness and it's
> > depersonalized. When it starts moving it just moves. The experience of
> > having a personal identity shifts with it. That's how you get
> prohibitionist
> > or pro-enforced-therapy movements. And when it starts to move like this
> > there develops a huge subconscious craving for light, for
> awareness. What
> > you see in Germany with the shifting attitude to addiction is just the
> > beginning. And it's good! I mean, who wants to be a junkie forever, for
> > fuck's sake?
> >
> > So, people want to be able to choose how they come off drugs?
> Fair enough,
> > but choose now! Get your shit together and do it. Heroin's days are
> > numbered, man. Maktab, it is written. And sealed with the seven
> seals and
> > all that stuff. Give yourself a break and move away from it now. If you
> find
> > these emails scarey then, fuck man, recognize that - you get scared by
> > emails suggesting you're gonna be pushed into looking harder at
> yourself.
> It
> > provokes a big reaction, look at that. You're an aware guy.
> Check it out.
> >
> > Love
> >
> > Nick
>
>
> Gawd damn , I've been biting my tongue.
>
> You folks should feel privledged to witness first hand the face
> of the 'new
> age nazi movement'. Nick, I have to thank you for vindicating me in my
> learned response to people who pass out their sanctimonious verbiage like
> car salesmen.
>
> Listen 'ere folks, Nick is alright.....a wee misdirected, but he will grow
> out of it.
>
> The reason we all go grey when we age ....and evolve through personal
> experience...is because it helps us understand that there just
> aren't black
> and white answers anymore .......shades of grey.....different
> prespectives.
>
> I think someone should volunteer to go 'underground' and check out Nick's
> peace and love camp and report back to the group.
>
>                                               .......Ken
>
>

YES! This would be a great idea! How about you, Ken?

Love

Nick




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