[Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism
ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Wed Jan 26 19:34:40 EST 2005
>Get your shit together and do it. Heroin's days are
I'm not taking heroin.
Though there have been a couple times over the last few years where I have
relented and bought a bag or three, those times were extremely few and far
between and are a while past now. Not a year yet, but over half at least,
probably closer to nine months or so since last time I did that.
>If you find
these emails scarey then, fuck man, recognize that - you get scared by
emails suggesting you're gonna be pushed into looking harder at yourself. It
provokes a big reaction, look at that. You're an aware guy. Check it out.<
You're missing the point Nick.
The scary thing about your emails is that you seem to be serious, that you
support forcing other people to submit to your views by force. This is
mostly scary to me because I'm just now discovering this, and now I'm
concerned because I don't know what I've divulged on list you may have read
and will one day decide to rat me or someone else out over because you think
it would do us good to have someone drag us out of our homes and teach us
the better, or your way anyway. That's what scares me, not looking harder at
myself. I don't have a single problem with that particular issue, of looking
deep and hard within myself, and that you might think I do have issue with
that is another thing that leaves me shaking my head, considering just how
open I am and always have been about myself and my feelings and emotions on
this list. The reaction is notr the looking inside myself, it's you thinking
it's ok to force others to your way of living and thinking. That's a
terrible way to go through life in my opinion, and I'm glad I'm not somehow
under your control. That's a fate I am glad I've so far escaped and hope I
continue to do so for a long, long time.
Peace and love,
"Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often
mistaken for madness"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Preston Peet [mailto:ptpeet at nyc.rr.com]
>> Sent: 26 January 2005 21:56
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] ibogaine and scary fascism
>> >As the overall level of consciousness on the planet starts
>> to rise and stabilize so heroin is going to become about the
>> least hip thing
>> So the prohibitionists are acting as agents of a higher world
> Unconsciously, yes!
>> Good to know that.
>> Granted heroin hasn't been around all that long, but still, opium
>> has and if
>> one does enough of it the effects are remarkably similar to heroin. Were
>> those who used it for the thousands upon thousands of years for so many
>> different reasons wrong after all? So if our use of this and other
>> substances was so wrong, how in the heck did we manage to evolve so far
>> along then?
> Preston, man, you'll have to just wait and watch it all happen.
> Evolution is not a linear process, it goes on in leaps and bounds and it's
> starting to leap up a bit now. When I saw the response in Europe to the
> tsunami disaster it was obvious to me that stuff was really changing. When
> people who ten years ago couldn't give a shit start throwing their money
> to people they don't even know in that way you know consciousness is
> shifting gears. Yes, we experience life as being something that's
> to the personal me, but underneath that it's just consciousness and it's
> depersonalized. When it starts moving it just moves. The experience of
> having a personal identity shifts with it. That's how you get
> or pro-enforced-therapy movements. And when it starts to move like this
> there develops a huge subconscious craving for light, for awareness. What
> you see in Germany with the shifting attitude to addiction is just the
> beginning. And it's good! I mean, who wants to be a junkie forever, for
> fuck's sake?
> So, people want to be able to choose how they come off drugs? Fair enough,
> but choose now! Get your shit together and do it. Heroin's days are
> numbered, man. Maktab, it is written. And sealed with the seven seals and
> all that stuff. Give yourself a break and move away from it now. If you
> these emails scarey then, fuck man, recognize that - you get scared by
> emails suggesting you're gonna be pushed into looking harder at yourself.
> provokes a big reaction, look at that. You're an aware guy. Check it out.
>> Peace and love,
>> Preston Peet
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