[Ibogaine] free

Kirsty Sutherland captkirk at kol.co.nz
Sat Jan 22 21:38:11 EST 2005


Trolls! How interesting this is my impression of you, Ken, a troll like
creature constantly sneering at the world and everybody in it for having
beliefs, ideas or traditions, and for some reason I get the feeling you were
a lot happier on drugs!!!  Keep trying, you might find one that helps!!

 

 

   _____  

From: ....Ken [mailto:chayco at island.net] 
Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 4:27 p.m.
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] free

 

Hello Nick,

 

Since I am new to this group I will not immediately label you as a
troll....maybe you have personal 'issues'....maybe you are
'challenged'...... or simply on DRUGS !

        That's okay.......let's HUG !

 

                                  There is a hidden side of me that just
warms up to this stuff  ;-)

 

 
......Ken 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: HYPERLINK "mailto:nick227 at tiscali.co.uk"Nick Sandberg 

 

 

Hey Ken,

 

I'm also having a little trouble understanding what your needs are from the
list. Are you presenting yourself as someone seeking help, or someone
offering it? Would you care to share more about your ibogaine experiences,
perhaps? My gut instinct, with therapist hat on, is that you are seeking
help but somewhere unsure how to ask for it. 

 

Would love to hear more.

 

with love

 

Nick Sandberg  HYPERLINK "http://www.ibogaine.co.uk"www.ibogaine.co.uk 

 

Hello Nick,

 

Yet another emotionally demonstrative person. 

 

 

Hey Ken,

 

Look, maybe it's me but I'm still have trouble following exactly what it is
you want. How about I go through it bit by bit and you can set me straight
if needed -

 

No, I am not seeking help. As mentioned in another post I am an advocate of
ibogaine and have been so for ten years.  

 

OK, this bit I get.

 

 I have facilitated the use of ibogaine extract and interested in first hand
experiences with drugs other than opioids.....which I have little
experience. 

 

OK, so you've given ibogaine extract to people. Yes? And you want to take
drugs which are not opiates? Something you haven't done much of before?

 

 

  This interest is not for myself personally, 

 

Now I get confused. You don't want to take these drugs for yourself? Is that
right?

 

  but whether it is appropriate to reccomend a person with ....say, chronic
methamphetamine use to self administer ibogaine. 

 

You want to gain experience from listening to other list-members about how
suitable ibogaine is for various addictions? Is this it?

 

Grateful for any more light, from yourself, or anyone else if I'm simply
missing something obvious here.

 

Hope you're doing good.

 

Nick 

 

This forum has changed considerably from its early years.

 

                                             regards......Ken  

 

 


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