[Ibogaine] thoughts on a movie and ibogaine

Kirsty Sutherland captkirk at kol.co.nz
Thu Jan 6 03:49:23 EST 2005


Film sounds good, is it an Independent? Will have to keep an eye out for it.
Also, has anyone in the USA seen the movie "INDIGO"?  I would advise anyone
interested or into spiritual stuff/indigo children to go see it.  Has got
Donald Neal Walsche (sp?) who had something to do with What Dreams May
Come.....
We have to wait til it gets here cos it's not a major release type movie.
Ah well, all in good time ay?
Kirk
PS I know what you mean about emotions/lack of opiates!! I went to see the
South Park movie when I was withdrawing from Methadone (about week two...)
and I darn near wet myself laughing so hard!  Was a weird sensation,
withdrawal symptoms, feeling grotty as, but high on laughter!

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus [mailto:aktionman at phantom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 7:26 p.m.
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] thoughts on a movie and ibogaine


preston......
your post kinda hit me where i live. i took ibo for a 25yr opiate
dependence 7 yrs ago this march 28. i was able to stay offa dope except
for a handful of times the first 4 yrs. i got my life pretty much on
track. it has stayed that way even with some personal setbacks. i've
been reading the list since before i took ibo, so i kinda know most of
the rogues gallery here.....and can relate.

like you, i too have pain probs i have to deal with. however i was
determind to not go back to coping & everything that it involves. i
sought out a pain mgmt. speacialist, who turned out to be very
understanding. so after 2 & 1/2 yrs. i've been on oxys (80mgs 3x
daily). i seem to be ok with this. i don't escalate too much......altho
i started out on 20mgs. but with my history, this is ok.

i even have an emergency dose of ibo.......should things get outta hand.
i've had this sitting for close to 3 yrs. every so often i get
depressed and try to find a 4-5 day window........but by the time i do,
i'm not in the shithouse anymore.

the insight i gained from my ibo trip has long since faded in
intensity......but sumwhere the lessons have stayed.
i don't know where i'm goin' with this.........'cept i feel ya,
bro!!!!

On 1/6/2005, "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>so,
>    I have some thought after watching Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind,
>and that mainly consists of not only holy shit that was an emotional
session
>watching this flick all by myself trying to ration out the last of my pain
>meds before seeing my doc on Friday (god this sounds freakin weird, kinda
>like deja vu) but I kept being reminded of my ibogaine sessions while
>watching the whole dream session where they wiped his memories. He kept
>struggling to wake up and fight the eraser people and they kept finding him
>no matter where he tried to hide his memories of Clementine.
>    Now granted, I realize fully that lack of sufficiant opiates is making
>me a bit emotional, but I highly recommend this film to anyone who isn't
>afraid to watch a very different kind of film, utterly fucking brilliant
but
>very different. If you've not tried something along the lines of ibogaine
or
>massive doses of mushrooms (you know, over 7 grams at a time) or mainlining
>ketamine, this film will give you somewhat of an idea of some of what I
>myself felt at times on each and every of those experiences.
>    Wow, I am wiped out after sitting through this.
>    I have to admit to feeling a bit confused about the whole ibogaine
>thing. I felt wonderful and KNEW it was going to fade and many have made
>their various suggestions, and yet, here I am, right back near pretty
>freakin much where I started...well, that's not really quite right, I'm not
>doing 30 40 dilaudids a day, but I am taking them at a level that my doc is
>calling "a lot" which is never a good sign. God damn it I'd set up aother
>session for "before Christmas" but when the provider called saying "we've
>got to set/finalize this up," I've blown off calling him back (and feel
very
>badly about it as I feel he's a friend of mine) but it's very hard to call
>someone like this and say, "no, can't quite afford it," or "no, not really
>quite ready to go again as much as I think I might want to sometimes" etc,
>etc, you know, all jumbled and confused and not quite sure what I want to
>do. Or what to think really.
>    Anyway, the point of this is I still recommend ibogaine to anyone who
>wants to give it a try, and would probably at some point yes do it again.
>But watching this film tonight made me realize just how much I really am
>unsure about subjecting myself to that experience again- even with an
>insatiable opiate appetite. After what has happened to many (to the best of
>my very, very limited knowlege "a lot") in NYC after going through what was
>a very happy time but now experiencing not quite as happy times I'd
imagine,
>I'm as noted confused. and unsure about stuff. Heck, again, I don't really
>know how I feel or really even what I'm trying to say but wanted to vent
>here and hope you don't mind.
>    Carry on, and again, I highly recommend this movie I spoke of above,
>it's brilliant, or at least I myself thought.
>
>
>Peace and love,
>Preston
>
>"Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often
>mistaken for madness"
>Richard Davenport-Hines
>
>ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
>Editor http://www.drugwar.com
>Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
>Cont. High Times mag/.com
>Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
>Columnist New York Waste
>Etc.
>
>
>
>
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