[Ibogaine] methadone TO BUP from dumb arse klown( Nick . thanks)

koko rwd3 at cox.net
Fri Dec 30 13:10:56 EST 2005


is it poor me or is that a carry over from when I'm consciously on self pity 
trip that turns everyone off?  can't quite figure out how feeling like shite 
ties into that. open to suggestions. thanks , ron
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Sandberg" <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] methadone TO BUP from dumb arse klown


>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron Davis [mailto:rwd3 at cox.net]
>> Sent: 29 December 2005 16:32
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] methadone TO BUP from dumb arse klown
>>
>>
>>    HOPE TO DO ANOTHER SESSION WITH A SEASONED PROVIDER SOON.  pROBLEM,
>> BESIDES NOT BEING ABLE TO TYPE.....i'M DOING BUP FOR PAIN
>> MANAGEMENT.......
>> CAN'T GET NEAR THE CLINIC CUZ OF THE WORK i DO THE LOCAL CONSTABLE  AND
>> PATIENTS WOULD PULL MY COVERS.  WHEN I DID MY SESSION I WAS OFF
>> BUP 2 WEEKS
>> DOIN OXYS.  MY PROVIDER TOMMY WAS INCREDIBLE SUBBING FOR A
>> SEASONED VET  WE
>> ALL KNOW.  I WAS TREATED LIKE A PATIENT , NOT LIKE A TRICK.
>> PROBLEM,  WHEN
>> IT WAS OVER, I HAD 10 DAYS INCLUDING SESSION TO PUT THE PIECES BACK.  i
>> COULD NOT FUNCTION. GUYS AT WORK TOLD ME TO GO HOME LEST THEY
>> CATCH WHAT I
>> HAD.  IT BEAT MY ASS.  JUST WONDERING FROM THE COLLECTIVE WISDOM OF THIS
>> LIST WHETHER IT WAS THE DRUG I WAS DETOXING FROM, MY AGE, NOT ALLOWING
>> ENOUGH TIME OR A COMBINATION OF ALL THE ABOVE WHICH SANK ME.  NO
>> WITHDRAWALS
>> OTHER THAN INSOMNIA AND GI STUFF( WHAT A HOOT), BUT SO DEPLETED
>> AFTERWARDS I
>> COULD NOT FUNCTION AT WORK LONG ENOUGH TO PUT MYSELF TOGETHER AGAIN
>> PHYSICALLY.  ANYONE HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THIS MORASS I WAS IN
>> AND STILL AM.
>> MANY THANKS...HERE'S HOPING I CAN BE NICE, NOT A PITIFUL KLOWN AND OFFER
>> SOME ONE HELP  DURING THE NEW YEAR.  AS I LOOK OVER SOME OF MY
>> COMMENTS TO
>> THE LIST I REEK W/ THE SHAME THAT FOLLOWS A FOOL.ron  GOTTA START
>> SOMEWHERE
>> SO I'LL THANK THE LIST FOR NOT PULLIN'  THE PLUG ON ME.  'DONE IS BEING
>> DISHED OUT IN THE 100'S OF MGS.  AROUND MY PART OF THE BIBLE BELT
>> WHICH IS
>> VERY CONFUSING.  NO LOCAL DOC WILL WORK  OUTPATIENT W/ AN ADDICT
>> TO DETOX( I
>> UNDERSTAND US LAWS PROHIBIT IT OR DISCOURAGE IT) AND THE ONLY
>> ONES W/ KAUNAS
>> BIG ENOUGH TO DO IT RIGHT ARE HRS. FROM ME WHICH IS COST PROHIBITVE ON A
>> REGULAR BASIS WHICH THEY JUSTIFIABLY INSIST UPON.  ALL THOSE WERE
>> MET ON THE
>> LIST OR OFF LIST AND AMAZE ME ... GOOD FOLKS TO COIN A SOUTHERN
>> FRIED PHRASE
>> FROM MY LITTLE CORNER OF HELL.  THANKS AGAIN TO ALL. koko
>
> Ron,
>
> It might help if you actually TRIED to let go of this colossal "poor me"
> trip you're on. It's not just up to the treatment, whether ibogaine or
> whatever, to help you, there's also the part that YOU (yes, YOU) have to 
> do.
> YOU HAVE TO CONSCIOUSLY CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE. And that starts with 
> beginning
> to communicate from the position of a individual that takes personal
> responsibility for himself, not as some tragic victim of life.
>
> Ignore all the "Yes, buts" likely now flowing through your mind. Drop them
> and start communicating without all the "poor me" subtext. Actually it's
> just a colossal ego trip and underneath you are as angry as hell.
>
> Nick
>
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