[Ibogaine] Boosters

Cheryl cherylca at myway.com
Sun Aug 28 23:54:39 EDT 2005


 
I'm not angry at either one of my cats.




 --- On Sun 08/28, slowone at hush.ai < slowone at hush.ai > wrote:
From: slowone at hush.ai [mailto: slowone at hush.ai]
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:37:22 -0700
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters

Nice post! Is there anyone you aren't mad at?On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:05:36 -0700 Cheryl wrote:> Right on. Being a junkie already means being treated like shit> from> know it all know nothings, but with ibogaine having no regulation> or training,> mostly underground, every a-hole with a opinion can power trip on> holding the> cure for addiction over people's heads. Some of the advice the> underground has> given my friends is stupid beyond belief, i won't name names but> telling people> to throw away their meds because they're clean now and get high> listening to> psychobabble does a lot more harm then good. by meds I don't mean> opiates> either, anti depressants, anti psychotics, you don't need any of> it anymore, don't> listen to the doctors. great advice, where did you get your> medical training again?> oh thats right, you're a drug dealer with attitude problems, sorry>> I forgot that. I> mean this in general not to you ed, I have no idea who you are> other then someone> with 
their head up their ass.>>> --- On Sun 08/28, edward conn < wardconn at hotmail.com > wrote:> From: edward conn [mailto: wardconn at hotmail.com]> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:17:25 +0000> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters>> You know this whole thing about 'boosters' - it sounds like a load>> of  old junky talk and boils down to this - not being able to live>> with  uncomfortable feelings, wanting to avoid ones own real feels>> and  supplement them for an artificially created one and were the>> 'ibogaine scene' becomes a supplementation policy rather than a> detoxification programme. Its bollox  - the excuse perpetrated is>> that because it or any other 'entheogenic' substance does'nt have> a  physical dependency risk its ok. But whos making the claims -> the  people who are doing it. The question is this when does one> learn or  atleast tentatively learn to live with ones own feelings>> and actually  find out who they are by allowing their> 
brain/mind/body/soul to  communicate to them with out the need for>> artifice - which came first  the chicken or the egg - the human or>> the drug - so humans cant live  w/out drugs??  Theres a lot of> people out there perpetrating things w/ out having compared them> to long> term alternatives i.e w/out. The  addict is a part of your self> which at some point in one life one  will or will not choose to> take head on, the addict has needs for  sure but maybe to be> listened too not to be fed so that it shuts  up....sound like a> parent to you anyone???? So who takes care of that  voice and who> smothers it or shuts it out??? What does wisdom say to  do...is> that not after all what the vector of ibogaine is trying to> initialise in consciousness - awareness??? But it does'nt effect> free  will, we were blessed with that after all and so the rebels> keep the  pretence up for pretence sake. So where are the> providers suggesting  that rather than some artifice of a mixed up>> 
psychiatric model???  Is  there ANYBODY out there???? Or is it> just voices..........Ed.> From: "Sjonnygee ." > Reply-To:> ibogaine at mindvox.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: RE:> [Ibogaine] Boosters> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:55:05 +0100>>>> Thanks Matt bro - yeah you're right , I'll> look into it  > more.............. sjonny.>>>>> From: "matthew> zielinski" > Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> To:> ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters> Date: Sun,>> 28 Aug 2005 15:35:20 -0400>>>>> Hey there>> I guess it depends> what u are lookin for.......if u want visions  > etc better take a>> biger dose.....if u just want to bring back that  > ibo feeling a> small dose will do fine>> Dont have much expeirence with it so im> sure other people will give  > u more comprehensive coments but if>> u are getting cravings im sure  > even a small dose will bring u> back  in to that clear  lovey dovey  > state of mind>> all the> best>> matt>>>>>>>>>>> Open your e-mail without 
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