[Ibogaine] Boosters

Cheryl cherylca at myway.com
Sun Aug 28 22:05:36 EDT 2005


 Right on. Being a junkie already means being treated like shit from 
know it all know nothings, but with ibogaine having no regulation or training, 
mostly underground, every a-hole with a opinion can power trip on holding the 
cure for addiction over people's heads. Some of the advice the underground has 
given my friends is stupid beyond belief, i won't name names but telling people 
to throw away their meds because they're clean now and get high listening to 
psychobabble does a lot more harm then good. by meds I don't mean opiates 
either, anti depressants, anti psychotics, you don't need any of it anymore, don't 
listen to the doctors. great advice, where did you get your medical training again? 
oh thats right, you're a drug dealer with attitude problems, sorry I forgot that. I 
mean this in general not to you ed, I have no idea who you are other then someone 
with their head up their ass.


 --- On Sun 08/28, edward conn < wardconn at hotmail.com > wrote:
From: edward conn [mailto: wardconn at hotmail.com]
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:17:25 +0000
Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters

You know this whole thing about 'boosters' - it sounds like a load of  old junky talk and boils down to this - not being able to live with  uncomfortable feelings, wanting to avoid ones own real feels and  supplement them for an artificially created one and were the  'ibogaine scene' becomes a supplementation policy rather than a  detoxification programme. Its bollox  - the excuse perpetrated is  that because it or any other 'entheogenic' substance does'nt have a  physical dependency risk its ok. But whos making the claims - the  people who are doing it. The question is this when does one learn or  atleast tentatively learn to live with ones own feelings and actually  find out who they are by allowing their brain/mind/body/soul to  communicate to them with out the need for artifice - which came first  the chicken or the egg - the human or the drug - so humans cant live  w/out drugs??  Theres a lot of people out there perpetrating things w/ out having compared them to long 
term alternatives i.e w/out. The  addict is a part of your self which at some point in one life one  will or will not choose to take head on, the addict has needs for  sure but maybe to be listened too not to be fed so that it shuts  up....sound like a parent to you anyone???? So who takes care of that  voice and who smothers it or shuts it out??? What does wisdom say to  do...is that not after all what the vector of ibogaine is trying to  initialise in consciousness - awareness??? But it does'nt effect free  will, we were blessed with that after all and so the rebels keep the  pretence up for pretence sake. So where are the providers suggesting  that rather than some artifice of a mixed up psychiatric model???  Is  there ANYBODY out there???? Or is it just voices..........Ed.> From: "Sjonnygee ." > Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:55:05 +0100>>> Thanks Matt bro - yeah you're right , I'll 
look into it  > more.............. sjonny.>>>>> From: "matthew zielinski" > Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com> Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Boosters> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:35:20 -0400>>>>> Hey there>> I guess it depends what u are lookin for.......if u want visions  > etc better take a biger dose.....if u just want to bring back that  > ibo feeling a small dose will do fine>> Dont have much expeirence with it so im sure other people will give  > u more comprehensive coments but if u are getting cravings im sure  > even a small dose will bring u back  in to that clear  lovey dovey  > state of mind>> all the best>> matt>>>>>>>>>>> Open your e-mail without having to worry about viruses with MSN  > Premium: Join now and get the first two months FREE* /] > =--------------------------------------------------------------------- > =[\ [%] Ibogaine List Commands: http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/ > IbogaineList.html [%] \] > 
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