[Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Kenai

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Tue Aug 16 11:05:01 EDT 2005


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Davis" <rwd3 at cox.net>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited 
prescribing of Suboxone?


> Kenai is a peninsula in Alaska south of Anchorage.  Koko was a local Klown 
> host of an afternoon kids cartoon show. You know, the kind where you could 
> see his yellow teeth and fingertips from too many smokes, his 3 o'clock 
> shadow always comming thru the thick pancake  makeup around showtime and 
> pedophile written all over him,  sort of like our local ice cream salesman 
> that works the neighborhood where i live now.  ( the teamsters will 
> probably be at my door tonight after work).  ron   Koko could have had a 
> "profound effect" on my life if I'd have gone backstage with him as he 
> proposed  the time I appeared on his show with my 3rd grade class.
> From: "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:25 PM
> Subject: [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited 
> prescribing of Suboxone?
>
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>> >THE KENAI KLOWN<
>>
>> Out of curiosity Ron, what's a "kenai" klown?
>> ;-)
>> Seriously, I've never seen that word.
>>
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>> Peace and love,
>> Preston Peet
>>
>> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often 
>> mistaken for madness"
>> Richard Davenport-Hines
>>
>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
>> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
>> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
>> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
>> Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
>> Cont. High Times mag/.com
>> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
>> Columnist New York Waste
>> Etc.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Davis" <rwd3 at cox.net>
>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?
>>
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>>> keep studying Preston, you are my cliff notes, KOKO, THE KENAI KLOWN
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
>>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?
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>>>> oh, thanks Howard, but the brochure that came with the advert for 
>>>> bup/nalwhatever it is says, for a whole page, don't take with liver 
>>>> problems or damaged liver whatsoever. It's not the opiate in the bup 
>>>> I'm worried about, it's the stuff that makes one sick IF trying to boot 
>>>> the stuff, as well as other weird things I keep hearing about the 
>>>> stuff, about how sick folk stay while on it, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peace and love,
>>>> Preston
>>>>
>>>> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is 
>>>> often mistaken for madness"
>>>> Richard Davenport-Hines
>>>>
>>>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
>>>> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
>>>> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
>>>> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
>>>> Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
>>>> Cont. High Times mag/.com
>>>> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
>>>> Columnist New York Waste
>>>> Etc.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: HSLotsof at aol.com
>>>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of 
>>>> Suboxone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 8/14/05 5:37:47 PM, ptpeet at nyc.rr.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I could sit and tell one of the docs at my pain specialists' 
>>>> office that I used opiates partly due to Hep C and more importantly 
>>>> because they work very effectively for pain, and not wanting to use 
>>>> anything more toxic, like Bup, prefering not to risk such toxic stuff 
>>>> on my liver, he STILL told me "here's a brochure for Bup/Nal, and I 
>>>> think you should think about switching to it," I'm amazed that the 
>>>> propaganda against opiates is so great that even a doc who should know 
>>>> better didn't/doesn't. That stuff scares the heck outta me, as do those 
>>>> pushing it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Buprenorphine is an opioid having both agonist and antagonist actions. 
>>>> The manufacturer is Reckitt Benckiser and its use in the treatment of 
>>>> opioid dependence disorders was the result of a collaborative research 
>>>> and development agreement (CRDA) between NIDA and Reckitt Benckiser.  A 
>>>> principal advantage of buprenorphine over methadone is that it can be 
>>>> dispensed by a doctor writing a prescription rather than having to be 
>>>> dispensed out of a designated clinic as is methadone for the treatment 
>>>> of chemical dependence.  Both drugs can be Rxd for pain. A key issue of 
>>>> NIDA not choosing to develop ibogaine was their concurrent CRDA for 
>>>> buprenorphine development.
>>>>
>>>> You might want to take a look at www.ibogaine.org/nycibogaforum.ppt 
>>>> which is a powerpoint slide presentation titled, Patient Medication 
>>>> Acceptability and Treatment Options:
>>>> Ibogaine. Methadone. Buprenorphine.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't have a PowerPoint reader you can get one free from 
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D1649C22-B51F-4910-93FC-4CF2832D3342&displaylang=en
>>>>
>>>> Howard
>>>>
>>>> Howard
>>>>
>>>>
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