[Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Tue Aug 16 10:56:28 EDT 2005


Kenai is a peninsula in Alaska south of Anchorage.  Koko was a local Klown 
host of an afternoon kids cartoon show. You know, the kind where you could 
see his yellow teeth and fingertips from too many smokes, his 3 o'clock 
shadow always comming thru the thick pancake  makeup around showtime and 
pedophile written all over him,  sort of like our local ice cream salesman 
that works the neighborhood where i live now.  ( the teamsters will probably 
be at my door tonight after work).  ron   Koko could have had a "profound 
effect" on my life if I'd have gone backstage with him as he proposed  the 
time I appeared on his show with my 3rd grade class.
From: "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: [Ibogaine] (OT) Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing 
of Suboxone?


> >THE KENAI KLOWN<
>
> Out of curiosity Ron, what's a "kenai" klown?
> ;-)
> Seriously, I've never seen that word.
>
>
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> Peace and love,
> Preston Peet
>
> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often 
> mistaken for madness"
> Richard Davenport-Hines
>
> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
> Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
> Cont. High Times mag/.com
> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
> Columnist New York Waste
> Etc.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Davis" <rwd3 at cox.net>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?
>
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>> keep studying Preston, you are my cliff notes, KOKO, THE KENAI KLOWN
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?
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>>> oh, thanks Howard, but the brochure that came with the advert for 
>>> bup/nalwhatever it is says, for a whole page, don't take with liver 
>>> problems or damaged liver whatsoever. It's not the opiate in the bup I'm 
>>> worried about, it's the stuff that makes one sick IF trying to boot the 
>>> stuff, as well as other weird things I keep hearing about the stuff, 
>>> about how sick folk stay while on it, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Peace and love,
>>> Preston
>>>
>>> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often 
>>> mistaken for madness"
>>> Richard Davenport-Hines
>>>
>>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
>>> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
>>> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
>>> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
>>> Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
>>> Cont. High Times mag/.com
>>> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
>>> Columnist New York Waste
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: HSLotsof at aol.com
>>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bush approves unlimited prescribing of Suboxone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/14/05 5:37:47 PM, ptpeet at nyc.rr.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I could sit and tell one of the docs at my pain specialists' office 
>>> that I used opiates partly due to Hep C and more importantly because 
>>> they work very effectively for pain, and not wanting to use anything 
>>> more toxic, like Bup, prefering not to risk such toxic stuff on my 
>>> liver, he STILL told me "here's a brochure for Bup/Nal, and I think you 
>>> should think about switching to it," I'm amazed that the propaganda 
>>> against opiates is so great that even a doc who should know better 
>>> didn't/doesn't. That stuff scares the heck outta me, as do those pushing 
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Buprenorphine is an opioid having both agonist and antagonist actions. 
>>> The manufacturer is Reckitt Benckiser and its use in the treatment of 
>>> opioid dependence disorders was the result of a collaborative research 
>>> and development agreement (CRDA) between NIDA and Reckitt Benckiser.  A 
>>> principal advantage of buprenorphine over methadone is that it can be 
>>> dispensed by a doctor writing a prescription rather than having to be 
>>> dispensed out of a designated clinic as is methadone for the treatment 
>>> of chemical dependence.  Both drugs can be Rxd for pain. A key issue of 
>>> NIDA not choosing to develop ibogaine was their concurrent CRDA for 
>>> buprenorphine development.
>>>
>>> You might want to take a look at www.ibogaine.org/nycibogaforum.ppt 
>>> which is a powerpoint slide presentation titled, Patient Medication 
>>> Acceptability and Treatment Options:
>>> Ibogaine. Methadone. Buprenorphine.
>>>
>>> If you don't have a PowerPoint reader you can get one free from 
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D1649C22-B51F-4910-93FC-4CF2832D3342&displaylang=en
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>>
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