[Ibogaine] re: show me the honey and reply

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Sat Aug 13 11:11:20 EDT 2005

I second that; however, if participating in the list is supposed to be a 
teaching /learning activity ( and it may not) and a spiritual discipline 
(and it may not), then we must be united in our cause, and  share the 
wanting to achieve the end.  at times the teacher is actually the student. 
of course , this presupposes there is structure as there has to be an 
agreement of the methodology used( and there may not) and the open 
sanctioning that a spiritual path / discipline is just that, which means 
there may be no end in sight as we  or rather i should say,  i slither 
along, trying to become a better person.  on the other hand, it may not be a 
spiritual discipline, or i may not have defined it properly, which is 
probably correct since i have AADD, can't read, can't type, can't hold a 
thought and should be getting a "dumb check" each month.  I'll go Pro Se and 
sue under the American Disabilities Act.  Not making light of those who 
really need this invaluable tool before Bush and co. take it back.  KOKO, 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ms Iboga" <ms_iboga at yahoo.com>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] re: show me the honey

> Rerun,
> There is very little beating around the bush on this
> list.  However, I am noticing that some people seem to
> think that everything should easily fall into their
> laps.  They don't do any research, and expect others
> to bend over backwards to help them out.
> In case you don't already know- this is NOT the way
> life works, and if you think otherwise, you're in for
> a few surprises.
> I had to work and do a lot of research to find ibo and
> get treated.  Why should it be any different for
> anyone else?  Do an internet search for ibogaine
> suppliers.  Go to some of the ibo informational
> websites and look under 'suppliers'.
> There is a certain amount of risk in self-treatment,
> and this could be one of the reasons people don't
> actively volunteer suppliers.  If you had done a bit
> more research, you would have likely realized this.
> Life does not owe you a favour- YOU owe YOURSELF a
> favour, so get busy.
> Julie
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