[Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Fri Aug 12 23:50:27 EDT 2005


I'm rusting, here's my timely response...will get the flick asap.  shame i 
can't speed it up into "fly years", ron, arms's tired from whuppin' meself
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Boris Leshinsky" <bleshins at bigpond.net.au>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....


>
> Ron, you a fan of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy at all?
>
> Check out the movie, there's a character in there you remind me off, 
> although i just can't put my finger on it.. who could it be?
>
> check it out anyhow, might make you smile!
>
> *Just jokes mate, its therapeutic to have a laugh at yourself every now 
> and again*  ;)
>
> "Do you want me to sit in the corner and rust, or just fall apart where 
> I'm standing?"
>
> ---- Ron Davis <rwd3 at cox.net> wrote:
>> thanks, that lifts my sinking self esteem a little
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vector Vector" <vector620022002 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....
>>
>>
>> > Ron someone signed up to the list found the usual 300 messages in their
>> > mailbox a day later and freaked out, they signed off. I wouldn't take
>> > it personally they happened to post after one of your messages I doubt
>> > they left because you're depressed.
>> >
>> > .:vector:.
>> >
>> > --- Ron Davis <rwd3 at cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> thanks for the thoughts, yeah, cynical, depraved, pan sexual, lawyer?
>> >>  just
>> >> a guy in a cheap suit helping guys in cheaper suits get outta places
>> >> I use
>> >> to frequent all to frequently.  they beat me up cuz it's my fault
>> >> they're
>> >> there, not the law or the snitch and then i beat myself up here for
>> >> you
>> >> guys. man, i hope i'm not chasing people away, pray i could put a
>> >> positive
>> >> spin on my sitch.  no way I'd take a shot at Preston,  the guy's
>> >> great, his
>> >> posts are great.....look at me as the darkside of the spectrum,  i
>> >> add
>> >> balance to the rah , rah  crowd,  i'll try to do better.  thanks for
>> >> having
>> >> me around and the thoughts.  really, i've got no problems compared to
>> >> a
>> >> member who pm'd me and said he'd whipped leukemia..really, it's a
>> >> priveldge
>> >> to know folks actually read my whinning, thanks for bringing me back
>> >> although i'll probably spin off again, ron  oh, yeah, i have a roof,
>> >> slithered out of the gutter and landed it, do have food, no bank
>> >> acct. and
>> >> borrowed computer but i ain't pulling copper pipe out of run down
>> >> buildings
>> >> and selling it for a fix. can't get the self esteem out of the
>> >> basement no
>> >> matter how many i get out of jail.  again, thanks for having me, tell
>> >> me
>> >> when i should go----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Krista Vaughan" <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
>> >> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:44 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I wanted to second everything in this msg :-)
>> >>
>> >> Ron aren't you a lawyer who at least has a roof over their head,
>> >> enough food, enough money for all your prescription drugs and a
>> >> computer with a internet connection? This puts you far ahead of most
>> >> street junkies.
>> >>
>> >> Didn't you just do ibogaine a little while ago?
>> >>
>> >> Not to put you down in any way (you're great at doing that to
>> >> yourself, even if I hated you I could never do half the job you do on
>> >> yourself). Ron, addiction is a big part of your problem and a lot of
>> >> people's to be sure, but have you ever considered doing anything at
>> >> all after ibogaine? Finding a group you can relate to, counseling, or
>> >> nothing at all related to drugs exactly but finding some kind of
>> >> self-image improvement program or book, anything!
>> >>
>> >> I know you can't do any of those things because your family is sick
>> >> or
>> >> dying, your job is too hard and it's better to keep beating yourself
>> >> up for no reason ;-) or any number of excuses you will come up with.
>> >>
>> >> Ron, you're ok. Go look in the mirror, I'm good enough, I'm smart
>> >> enough, I'm ok. You are loved, try to love yourself only a little
>> >> bit,
>> >> we promise not to tell anyone.
>> >>
>> >> KV
>> >>
>> >> On 8/2/05, Kirk <captkirk at clear.net.nz> wrote:
>> >> > Ron, hope you are doing ok.
>> >> > Have you ever thought of doing some (dog forgive me for using the
>> >> "lingo'
>> >> > but I feel it is needed here..) kind of positivity program?
>> >> Changing your
>> >> > word speak, self image etc etc. You sound terminally cynical and
>> >> negative.
>> >> > I think your last email to Preston was humorous, but to be honest
>> >> was hard
>> >> > to tell..... no offence dear Ron, really!
>> >> > I just feel that you have gotten stuck in this position of
>> >> everything is
>> >> > bad
>> >> > no matter what...and even to the point of affecting other people to
>> >> leave
>> >> > this list?  Come on Ron, you expressed a valid opinion.. I think it
>> >> was
>> >> > coinky dinks.. if not.... it doesn't matter, although I totally
>> >> UNDERSTAND
>> >> > getting dumped on for your posts to here!! But all I have to do
>> >> there is
>> >> > re-read the Welcome Mat and I feel ok again~! *kiss hugs to
>> >> Patrick, who
>> >> > really truly does understand ;o)*
>> >> > Ron ron ron ron ron......i just wanna grab ya and show ya that it
>> >> really
>> >> > isn't all bad.,..... I have my days... that's what it's all about..
>> >> I hate
>> >> > them,. But I have to force myself to look at the good the beautiful
>> >> the
>> >> > awesomely neat that IS around us all. It's there take a
>> >> look.........
>> >> > If I find something I feel might help your state of mind I'll send
>> >> it, cos
>> >> > I
>> >> > feel this is what keeps you where you are... not the drugs....they
>> >> are a
>> >> > symptom to deeper shit well duh ok that might be obvious more
>> >> obivious
>> >> > here?
>> >> > And im just guessing (and trying to see the pyter screen over a
>> >> huge fat
>> >> > fluffy ct tail.. .... nosey buggers aint they??? Haaaaa GO WAY
>> >> snowballs,
>> >> > I
>> >> > don't want to see them1!!! LMAO)
>> >> > Urh yeh sorry
>> >> > Love to you Ron, really., keep posting....that much I have learnt.
>> >> > Hugs
>> >> > Kirk xxxxxxx
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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