[Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl

shelley krupa skrupa20022002 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 8 12:48:45 EDT 2005

I tried detoxing twice with bup , a miserable failure for me , I still craved like a motha!I wasnt up for prolonged misery ,so both times I switched back to short acting & did ibogaine ! Many praise bup ,theres a whole website that encourage folks to detox on it (opiate detox & recovery site) wish everyone well-shell

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I had always been sold that too.  But I couldn’t imagine that a drug that lasted several times longer than methadone would have a less severe withdrawal. But since I never got on it (bup that is), and I was pretty well suspicious of it from the start, I never bothered finding out about it chemical action in the brain, which I have heard more recently is somewhat different than opiate agonists.  But I was told all kinds of things about methadone that turned out not to be true also so I just sort of dismissed buprenorphine as another attempt at controlling addicts rather than helping them get clean.



From: Ron Davis [mailto:rwd3 at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:29 AM
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl


I think oxy w/d's last longer because of the chemical make up.  it is a long lasting drug, designed that way.  w/d's can last weeks.  heroin would be a step down drug in terms of w/d's . having said that,  is bup or sub more difficult to get off than heroin?  i know methadone is a bitch,  bup was sold to me by a doc that presented it as a warm puppy, i guess since one doesn't get high, that was easily bought by me but know i'm hearing it is very problematic.  i'm tapering and seeking advice on how to do so w/ minimal pain.  i was on oxys, the doc put me on pure oxy w/o the contin part then i went to bup.  i think i was mislead as research on w/d's and product literature downplayed the w/d's.  ron

----- Original Message ----- 

From: HSLotsof at aol.com 

To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 

Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:46 PM

Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl


That doesn't answer the question.  Can anyone respond to the question of the question of a comparison of withdrawal signs of heroin and oxycontin?


In a message dated 8/7/05 10:10:27 PM, rwd3 at cox.net writes:

pure hell, plastic , longlasting, stay away

----- Original Message -----

From: matthew zielinski

To: ibogaine at mindvox.com

Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:18 PM

Subject: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl

Hi all
Anybody know if the withdrawl from oxycontin is worse than wd from junk>? 


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