[Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Mon Aug 8 11:18:24 EDT 2005

i'm as dumb as i sound in my postings, ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthew Shriver 
  To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:37 AM
  Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl

  I had always been sold that too.  But I couldn't imagine that a drug that lasted several times longer than methadone would have a less severe withdrawal. But since I never got on it (bup that is), and I was pretty well suspicious of it from the start, I never bothered finding out about it chemical action in the brain, which I have heard more recently is somewhat different than opiate agonists.  But I was told all kinds of things about methadone that turned out not to be true also so I just sort of dismissed buprenorphine as another attempt at controlling addicts rather than helping them get clean.



  From: Ron Davis [mailto:rwd3 at cox.net] 
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:29 AM
  To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl


  I think oxy w/d's last longer because of the chemical make up.  it is a long lasting drug, designed that way.  w/d's can last weeks.  heroin would be a step down drug in terms of w/d's . having said that,  is bup or sub more difficult to get off than heroin?  i know methadone is a bitch,  bup was sold to me by a doc that presented it as a warm puppy, i guess since one doesn't get high, that was easily bought by me but know i'm hearing it is very problematic.  i'm tapering and seeking advice on how to do so w/ minimal pain.  i was on oxys, the doc put me on pure oxy w/o the contin part then i went to bup.  i think i was mislead as research on w/d's and product literature downplayed the w/d's.  ron

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    From: HSLotsof at aol.com 

    To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 

    Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:46 PM

    Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl


    That doesn't answer the question.  Can anyone respond to the question of the question of a comparison of withdrawal signs of heroin and oxycontin?


    In a message dated 8/7/05 10:10:27 PM, rwd3 at cox.net writes:

    pure hell, plastic , longlasting, stay away

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    From: matthew zielinski

    To: ibogaine at mindvox.com

    Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:18 PM

    Subject: [Ibogaine] oxycontin withdrawl

    Hi all
    Anybody know if the withdrawl from oxycontin is worse than wd from junk>? 

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