[Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....

Ron Davis rwd3 at cox.net
Tue Aug 2 16:18:40 EDT 2005


thanks, that lifts my sinking self esteem a little
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vector Vector" <vector620022002 at yahoo.com>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....


> Ron someone signed up to the list found the usual 300 messages in their
> mailbox a day later and freaked out, they signed off. I wouldn't take
> it personally they happened to post after one of your messages I doubt
> they left because you're depressed.
>
> .:vector:.
>
> --- Ron Davis <rwd3 at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> thanks for the thoughts, yeah, cynical, depraved, pan sexual, lawyer?
>>  just
>> a guy in a cheap suit helping guys in cheaper suits get outta places
>> I use
>> to frequent all to frequently.  they beat me up cuz it's my fault
>> they're
>> there, not the law or the snitch and then i beat myself up here for
>> you
>> guys. man, i hope i'm not chasing people away, pray i could put a
>> positive
>> spin on my sitch.  no way I'd take a shot at Preston,  the guy's
>> great, his
>> posts are great.....look at me as the darkside of the spectrum,  i
>> add
>> balance to the rah , rah  crowd,  i'll try to do better.  thanks for
>> having
>> me around and the thoughts.  really, i've got no problems compared to
>> a
>> member who pm'd me and said he'd whipped leukemia..really, it's a
>> priveldge
>> to know folks actually read my whinning, thanks for bringing me back
>> although i'll probably spin off again, ron  oh, yeah, i have a roof,
>> slithered out of the gutter and landed it, do have food, no bank
>> acct. and
>> borrowed computer but i ain't pulling copper pipe out of run down
>> buildings
>> and selling it for a fix. can't get the self esteem out of the
>> basement no
>> matter how many i get out of jail.  again, thanks for having me, tell
>> me
>> when i should go----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Krista Vaughan" <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RE: Ron, sweetheart....
>>
>>
>> I wanted to second everything in this msg :-)
>>
>> Ron aren't you a lawyer who at least has a roof over their head,
>> enough food, enough money for all your prescription drugs and a
>> computer with a internet connection? This puts you far ahead of most
>> street junkies.
>>
>> Didn't you just do ibogaine a little while ago?
>>
>> Not to put you down in any way (you're great at doing that to
>> yourself, even if I hated you I could never do half the job you do on
>> yourself). Ron, addiction is a big part of your problem and a lot of
>> people's to be sure, but have you ever considered doing anything at
>> all after ibogaine? Finding a group you can relate to, counseling, or
>> nothing at all related to drugs exactly but finding some kind of
>> self-image improvement program or book, anything!
>>
>> I know you can't do any of those things because your family is sick
>> or
>> dying, your job is too hard and it's better to keep beating yourself
>> up for no reason ;-) or any number of excuses you will come up with.
>>
>> Ron, you're ok. Go look in the mirror, I'm good enough, I'm smart
>> enough, I'm ok. You are loved, try to love yourself only a little
>> bit,
>> we promise not to tell anyone.
>>
>> KV
>>
>> On 8/2/05, Kirk <captkirk at clear.net.nz> wrote:
>> > Ron, hope you are doing ok.
>> > Have you ever thought of doing some (dog forgive me for using the
>> "lingo'
>> > but I feel it is needed here..) kind of positivity program?
>> Changing your
>> > word speak, self image etc etc. You sound terminally cynical and
>> negative.
>> > I think your last email to Preston was humorous, but to be honest
>> was hard
>> > to tell..... no offence dear Ron, really!
>> > I just feel that you have gotten stuck in this position of
>> everything is
>> > bad
>> > no matter what...and even to the point of affecting other people to
>> leave
>> > this list?  Come on Ron, you expressed a valid opinion.. I think it
>> was
>> > coinky dinks.. if not.... it doesn't matter, although I totally
>> UNDERSTAND
>> > getting dumped on for your posts to here!! But all I have to do
>> there is
>> > re-read the Welcome Mat and I feel ok again~! *kiss hugs to
>> Patrick, who
>> > really truly does understand ;o)*
>> > Ron ron ron ron ron......i just wanna grab ya and show ya that it
>> really
>> > isn't all bad.,..... I have my days... that's what it's all about..
>> I hate
>> > them,. But I have to force myself to look at the good the beautiful
>> the
>> > awesomely neat that IS around us all. It's there take a
>> look.........
>> > If I find something I feel might help your state of mind I'll send
>> it, cos
>> > I
>> > feel this is what keeps you where you are... not the drugs....they
>> are a
>> > symptom to deeper shit well duh ok that might be obvious more
>> obivious
>> > here?
>> > And im just guessing (and trying to see the pyter screen over a
>> huge fat
>> > fluffy ct tail.. .... nosey buggers aint they??? Haaaaa GO WAY
>> snowballs,
>> > I
>> > don't want to see them1!!! LMAO)
>> > Urh yeh sorry
>> > Love to you Ron, really., keep posting....that much I have learnt.
>> > Hugs
>> > Kirk xxxxxxx
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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