[Ibogaine] sleeeeep.hey marc

m.finman mafinman at optonline.net
Sat Apr 30 21:10:10 EDT 2005


Hi Kurt,
     Thanks.  Shirl speaks highly of you.  Takes one to know one.....none the less I would love to pick your brain..in that curious respectful sort of way.  I look forward to one sunny day in nyc.            Martee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KURT BRECHTER 
  To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] sleeeeep.hey marc


  Hey Now Martee,
    just wanted to say hello, I'm aquainted with Mark Shirley and Joe, I just wanted You to know You are included with them in My list of HEROS,
  it takes one to know one.,
  Peas and love Kurt
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: m.finman 
    To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
    Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:20 PM
    Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] sleeeeep.hey marc


    Hey Hey,
         Your apearance once again is heart warming.  I've personally been lurking, going through a no need to comment stage.  However, what I sense would be helpful for you personally would be if you would find a reputable dojo.  It could possibly serve you in areas of being more grounded, disciplined and calm.  Also an outlet for that puppy energy you have that needs to be collected and directed.  
            You'll notice I didn't suggest yoga.... 
                                             love you just the way you are,
                                                                   Martee
         
     Original Message ----- 
      From: mcorcoran 
      To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
      Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] sleeeeep.


      brownies were a life saver in mexico but my gas isn't being turned on unitl tomorrow. unitl then i'll just have to smoke but i actually got 7 hours last night so i think i might be on the other end of it.  Actually I feel pretty damn great. Thanks. -M.

      Jasen Chamoun <jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au> wrote: 
          Hey M,

          As well as the other things you mentioned, I found that eating pot helped me to sleep and relax more. More so than smoking, although I did both. As I am sure you
          are aware you have to eat more than you would smoke.

          You are sleeping soon.

                                                                              love, Jasen.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: mcorcoran 
          To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
          Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:33 AM
          Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] sorry to keep bitchin abouth is but....


          I'm still not sleeping! Actually last night was one of my worst 1 and a half hours 17 days out.
          Last time it got gradiually better but this time it seems to be getting worse again and this time around was abusing a much shorter acting opiate.
          This is beginning to drive me a little nuts. I have no desire to use but I don't think I'd turn down a Xanax. Nah I'm not gonna take any Xanax but I'm open to sugestions. And yeah I've done the Melitonin and the valerian and smoking an hour before I go to sleep. But nothings working. Except maybe the ibogaine. -m.

          Ron Davis <rwd3 at cox.net> wrote:
            yeah, a very close friend of mine said that often, since i have no personal 
            experiences. he said to have many spikes,, rigs on stand by as one gropes 
            and clogs and coagulates searching for the impossible, dumb guy never 
            learned either, kept trying the impossible, getting off took on a whole new 
            meaning, no quickie in the enco station or your friend's bathroom. then 
            there was the panic as the realization of failure set in. oxys d/n do well 
            im i'm told..a lot of plastic molecules
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: "Preston Peet" 
            To: 
            Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:48 AM
            Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes


            > >in the south there is no h at least in the bible belt. an 80 oxy runs 60
            > bucks. melt 4 of those and you have a 240 dollar load.<
            > OOOWWUCH!
            >
            >
            > Peace and love,
            > Preston Peet
            >
            > "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often 
            > mistaken for madness"
            > Richard Davenport-Hines
            >
            > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
            > Editor http://www.drugwar.com
            > Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
            > Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
            > Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
            > Cont. High Times mag/.com
            > Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
            > Columnist New York Waste
            > Etc.
            >
            > ----- Original Message ----- 
            > From: "Ron Davis" 
            > To: 
            > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:39 AM
            > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes
            >
            >
            >> in the south there is no h at least in the bible belt. an 80 oxy runs 60 
            >> bucks. melt 4 of those and you have a 240 dollar load. i promise you , 
            >> there will not be a visible vein on your body. not that i ever tried it, 
            >> story is purely anecdotal, ron
            >> ----- Original Message ----- 
            >> From: "Preston Peet" 
            >> To: 
            >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:33 AM
            >> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes
            >>
            >>
            >>> Veins? Veins? LOL, I Have capilaries and a few viens (I admit, they do 
            >>> come back, sorta, after a break of some years) but they rapidly go, 
            >>> "Hey, Preston, Fuck You. We're going back into hiding," leaving me 
            >>> whimpering in the bathroom as I try desperately to get well.
            >>> Or at least, that's where I was once again not too long ago.
            >>> ;-))
            >>> But then, two days ago climbing outta the bathtub, what should pop up on 
            >>> my foreleg but a HUGE vein I haven't seen in years, looking whole and 
            >>> hungry too- it's the DEVIL I tell you- "Hey Look Preston, a huge willing 
            >>> vein, and that drugstore where you can legally buy .75 cent rigs is just 
            >>> around the corner, RUN!
            >>> But I resisted. Weird shit ibogaine, how it somehow allows me to step 
            >>> back, for the most part, and think things through first, again, for the 
            >>> most part.
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> Peace and love,
            >>> Preston Peet
            >>>
            >>> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is often 
            >>> mistaken for madness"
            >>> Richard Davenport-Hines
            >>>
            >>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
            >>> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
            >>> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
            >>> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient Civilizations, 
            >>> Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out Sept. 2005)
            >>> Cont. High Times mag/.com
            >>> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
            >>> Columnist New York Waste
            >>> Etc.
            >>>
            >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
            >>> From: "Ron Davis" 
            >>> To: 
            >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:43 AM
            >>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>> you have veins after all these yrs? lucky, i haven't seen one in 
            >>>> decades. dilaudids cooked up nicely in the 70's before the generics 
            >>>> came out. i recently had knee surgery and the doc was compassionate w/ 
            >>>> scripts. i ate 25 4mg. to get off, glad insurance paid, knee hurt like 
            >>>> hell for a month till he filled again. it all sucks, maybe my day will 
            >>>> come soon, well wishes , ron----- Original Message ----- 
            >>>> From: "Preston Peet" 
            >>>> To: 
            >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:01 AM
            >>>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>>> Never considered banging it, and don't think I would- and I used to 
            >>>>> band ANYTHING I could melt into a needle too once upon a time- but 
            >>>>> that's been years (for instance, I get ms-contins along with my 
            >>>>> dilaudids, but never shot them- but did add water to one once, on the 
            >>>>> off chance it would work somehow- LOL, I do NOT inject jelly into my 
            >>>>> veins, no matter how desperate for a "fix" (i.e. needle in my vein, 
            >>>>> which is such a HUGE part of my addictive problems, that whole 
            >>>>> ritualistic needle thing, which is one reason why I'm trying new 
            >>>>> streches to my new Tai Chi video, and still plan on trying yoga, as 
            >>>>> soon as I can get up early enough on either this Wed or Fri to attend 
            >>>>> a class a few blocks from my home.
            >>>>> Carry on all.
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>> Peace and love,
            >>>>> Preston Peet
            >>>>>
            >>>>> "Madness is not enlightenment, but the search for enlightenment is 
            >>>>> often mistaken for madness"
            >>>>> Richard Davenport-Hines
            >>>>>
            >>>>> ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
            >>>>> Editor http://www.drugwar.com
            >>>>> Editor "Under the Influence- the Disinformation Guide to Drugs"
            >>>>> Editor "Underground- The Disinformation Guide to Ancient 
            >>>>> Civilizations, Astonishing Archeology and Hidden History" (due out 
            >>>>> Sept. 2005)
            >>>>> Cont. High Times mag/.com
            >>>>> Cont. Editor http://www.disinfo.com
            >>>>> Columnist New York Waste
            >>>>> Etc.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
            >>>>> From: "Carlton B" 
            >>>>> To: 
            >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:43 PM
            >>>>> Subject: [Ibogaine] Iboga introduction routes
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>>> Just listening to this talk about gagging gullets and emptying bowels 
            >>>>>> makes
            >>>>>> me ask a question: has anyone ever explored taking it as an 
            >>>>>> injection? No
            >>>>>> loss of product, etc. I wouldn't want to be the first one to try 
            >>>>>> it. On
            >>>>>> second thought, maybe it's not such a good idea to bypass the body's 
            >>>>>> main
            >>>>>> safeguard to OD....
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
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