[Ibogaine] Re: Patrick and crutches!

darkmattersfo at comcast.net darkmattersfo at comcast.net
Wed Apr 27 01:31:44 EDT 2005


Pam, I don't know you are your husband but my heart reaches out to you. I am so sorry for your loss. I wish I had some way to make this easier. - Mark


> I am so sorry to say that it is true.  We don't know at this point exactly
> what caused it.  The coroner's office has agree to provide me with a copy of
> their report, when it becomes available.  I will certainly share their
> findings.
> Know this:  Early yesterday morning, Patrick was exhausted, but did speak to
> me to say, "I know I'm finally free.  I don't have to use again.  I love
> you, and I'm sorry I'm just too tired to talk."
> I am angry that he's gone, but I will say this.  I know him better than
> anyone else, and I know he would far rather have died a free man than lived
> a slave.
> If his passing provides information that saves someone else's life down the
> line, he would be pleased.  I will still be pissed off, but would at least
> be able to say SOMETHING good came of it.
> Pam
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carlton B" <carltonb at mindspring.com>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Re: Patrick and crutches!
> 
> 
> > I guess I am trying to process this, waiting for someone to say "just
> kidding" or something...
> > Do you really mean to tell us your husband died 3 days after taking ibo?
> I'm sorry even to question it; I hope you understand that on the internet
> there are a lot of people who would perpetuate cruel hoaxes like this, just
> to wind up people who post in good faith.  So when I hear news like this, I
> hope it isn't true, and my first reaction is to disbelieve it.  And again I
> apologize for that.
> >
> > If it's indeed true, I offer my deepest condolences.    I don't know if
> iboga was responsible, honestly, but the circumstances do give cause for
> wondering.   What I do know is that there is a risk in experimentation, and
> because the FDA shirks its responsibility in testing innovative treatments,
> that burden of risk must be taken on by people like you and me.    It is
> small comfort to you, but it's possible that in the discovery process you
> will discover information that could prevent this happening to someone else.
> I hope you'll consider sharing any new knowledge that you uncover.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carlton
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pam Paperno <pam at lviue.com>
> > Sent: Apr 27, 2005 8:56 AM
> > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Re: Patrick and crutches!
> >
> > Sadly, Patrick passed away yesterday.  It was very sudden, and we won't
> > really know what happened until the coroner's report is ready in 6-8
> weeks.
> > Pam
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Preston Peet" <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
> > To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:16 AM
> > Subject: [Ibogaine] Re: Patrick and crutches!
> >
> >
> > > By the way, Patrick sitting upright yet, or is he still prostrate?
> >
> >
> >
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