[Ibogaine] this not sleeping thing is beginning to drive me nuts !!!!!!!!

Morning Wood morning_wood263 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 24 15:16:13 EDT 2005


--- Ron Davis <rwd3 at cox.net> wrote:

> queston from a non ibonaut:  why multiple
> treatments?  

  Why not?


> do i wear dashkis and
> hunt prey in the savnaha 

  if you want. 

> or can i work and LIVE COMFORTABLY
> W/O TAKING MOOD OR MIND 
> ALTERING DRUGS
  
  how would I know what you can do?

> BE HAPPY IN MY OWN SKIN? 

  I hope you find what you are looking for Ron.

cheers,
jb

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <slowone at hush.ai>
> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] this not sleeping thing is
> beginning to drive me 
> nuts !!!!!!!!
> 
> 
> >I found myself sleeping a full 8 hours after years
> of 4-6 hours
> > after my most traumatic iboga experience, which
> also left me
> > praying for death at times over the next few
> months. We may
> > internalize the hostile people and environments of
> our childhood
> > that we had to sacrifice parts of ourself to
> survive, and when
> > iboga tries to break the grip of those patterns,
> these "introjects"
> > may retaliate. Lack of sleep can flatten all
> players in that game.
> > I think aftercare can help sort out these battles.
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:58:57 -0700 mcorcoran
> > <mcorcoran27 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>I should be kind of a veteran at this point and
> have a good idea
> >>what to expect but this time have just been so
> different. Still
> >>only getting 3 or 4 good hours of sleep and still
> tons of sweating
> >
> >>in my sleep and very strange post ibo dreams.
> Tried to give back a
> >
> >>bundle of dope becasue I didn't want it and was
> confronted by bill
> >
> >>clinton and arrested. Thats one of the ones I'm
> recalling right
> >>now.
> >>Anyway its kinda weird. its like I almost feel
> sick at points
> >>throughout the day and then at other points I
> can't believe how
> >>freakin good I feel.
> >>Going back to work this fast hasnt made it any
> easier but who
> >>knows myabe thats why I'm even getting that much
> sleep to begin
> >>with.
> >>Howard once told me that you might not need as
> much sleep after
> >>ibo but I gotta say I'd love to sleep a full 8 or
> even 6 hours.
> >>Okay off to work. 14 days out and feeling pretty
> damn good though.
> >
> >>-M.
> >>
> >>
> >>Carlton B <carltonb at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>Well naturally you don't want to start out being
> dehydrated at the
> >
> >>start of a potentially dehydrating activity.  I
> was just saying
> >>that over-hydration in a short period of time is
> not a good way to
> >
> >>get hydrated.  And fruit juices are not a good way
> to get
> >>hydrated.
> >>
> >>If you are caring for someone who is chronically
> hydrated, and
> >>especially an opiate user, one of the best things
> you can do for
> >>them is give them high-fiber foods.   We get most
> of our water
> >>from the food we eat, and if ingested as fiber,
> the body can
> >>manage its own best absorption rate.  I really
> like brown rice for
> >
> >>this purpose.   If you can get your husband on
> brown rice then
> >>that might be a good thing.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message----- 
> >>From: Pam Paperno
> >>
> >>Sent: Apr 22, 2005 9:54 AM
> >>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Reasons for Failure
> >>
> >>
> >>My poor junky husband is pretty dehydrated at this
> point.  If I
> >>don't force him, he doesn't eat or drink.  We just
> want him re-
> >>hydrated before he's dehydrated again.
> >>Pam
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: Carlton B
> >>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 5:34 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Reasons for Failure
> >>
> >>
> >>On hydration....
> >>
> >>If you know you are going to a place where you
> cannot drink water
> >>for a while, the best way to prepare is to avoid
> caffeine, salty
> >>foods, and other diuretics for 2 or 3 days before
> departure.
> >>Have a glass of water with meals or when you are
> thirsty.   You
> >>can't store water like a camel.  If you drink an
> excess of water,
> >>your kidneys will simply dump it within a few
> hours.  If you're in
> >
> >>a state where you can barely open your eyes, you
> probably want to
> >>avoid unnecessary trips to the bathroom.
> >>
> >>In a period of 12 to 24 hours, you won't lose
> enough fluid to
> >>jeopardize your health unless you are in a hot
> environment, doing
> >>vigorous exercise, consuming diuretics or salty
> foods, or
> >>experiencing copious vomiting or diarrhea.   (Not
> talking about a
> >>few alkaloid heaves... more like an influenza or
> cholera type
> >>experience).   Generally if your body needs water,
> it will produce
> >
> >>a sensation of thirst and allow you to drink.
> >>
> >>On fruit juices...
> >>
> >>Fruit juices contain a lot of sugar.  Sugary
> drinks like fruit
> >>juices can cause what is called secondary
> dehydration... your
> >>blood becomes too concentrated.  To correct this,
> osmosis draws
> >>fluid out of your tissues, which become
> dehydrated.  Also, the
> >>high sugar content of fruit juice is taxing for
> your pancreas and
> >>endocrine system.   If you are tripping or
> otherwise altered, you
> >>want your digestive system to be at rest so it
> isn't distracted
> >>from the task of digesting alkaloids that your
> stomach would
> >>really prefer to spew across the room.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message----- 
> >>From: Pam Paperno
> >>
> >>Sent: Apr 22, 2005 8:09 AM
> >>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Reasons for Failure
> >>
> >>
> >>It stands to reason that hydrating ahead of time
> would be a good
> >>idea, since there is likely to be very little
> consumption after
> >>the Ibogaine.
> >>Have you checked out the Ibogaine Dossier? 
> There's lots of useful
> >
> 
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