[Ibogaine] Re: James Arthur

Vector Vector vector620022002 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 20 15:53:14 EDT 2005


I just read this and it sounds really weird. I remember James when he
used to have conversations on here in 2002 or so. You nailed it with
that though Nick, given his views on Jesus it all sounds.......... It
sounds like we're in 2005 :(

.:vecctor:.

--- Nick Sandberg <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> God, this is really a bolt out of the blue. I never met James but
> communicated with him quite a bit for a while. He was a great guy and
> a
> great researcher and libertarian. It sounds suspicious as anything,  
> given
> his views on Jesus, and given the current US regime and their covert 
> 
> war on
> psychoactive plants. I hope more details are released and we can push
>  
> for a
> proper investigation. Does anyone know more?
> 
> Checkout www.jamesarthur.net for details of his work.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sara Glatt [mailto:sara119 at xs4all.nl]
> > Sent: 19 April 2005 06:01
> > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] Re: On HBO telly tonight - not sure if just
>  
> > U.S.
> > or what
> >
> >
> > James Arthur was an inspiration to me, this is a very sad Day!
> >
> > Sara
> >
> >
> >   James Arthur Dies, World's Foremost Ethno-Mycologist
> >   http://www.rense.com/general64/james.htm
> >   4-16-5
> >
> >   It is with regret that we announce the loss of James Arthur under
> > circumstances which remain clouded and suspicious. A terse news
> report,
> > disputed on a number of counts by his associates and family, states
> he  
> > was
> > 'found dead in jail with a sheet around his neck.' His death has
> > been ruled
> > a 'suicide' according to police. No other details were released. He
> was
> > arrested on charges of alleged 'sexual misconduct' with a  
> > minor...charges
> > his associates claim were conveniently made by a
> recently-terminated
> > 'secretary' who had reportedly been hired to type the manuscript of
> a  
> > new
> > book...and then fired.
> >
> > There is much more to this story and we will present further
> > information as
> > is becomes available.
> >
> > James Arthur made his first appearance on national radio on our
> > program and
> > his extraordinary knowledge of human history and Ethnomycology
> > were truly a
> > marvel.
> >
> > James subsequently became a regular and anticipated special guest
> every
> > Christmas season and made a fascinating illustrated presentation
> > on how the
> > little red-capped amanita muscaria mushroom has been not only a
> staple  
> > of
> > Christmas cards since the first cards were produced, but has, in
> > fact, been
> > pictured in illustrated history since Roman times. James' visits
> were
> > always fun and intriguing, and unquestionably opened new doorways  
> > through
> > which to reconsider many fundamental aspects of human experience
> for  
> > over
> > two millennia.
> >
> > James Arthur was a unique and gifted researcher and will be
> > missed by many.
> > The work he leaves behind, however, will continue to enlighten and
> > stimulate all those who seek the truth of our history on this
> troubled
> > planet. -Jeff Rense
> >
> > The following Bio of James by our friend and colleague Jordan
> Maxwell  
> > is
> > well worth reading...
> >
> >
> > By Jordan Maxwell 4-16-5
> >
> > Having become fascinated with religions of all types at an early
> age  
> > James
> > Arthur hurtled into deep study for 25 years. Having discovered
> works by
> > such Pioneers (in Ethno-Mycology) as (1) R. Gordon Wasson and (2)
> John
> > Marco Allegro. James set out on a quest to unravel the mysterious  
> > meanings
> > and implications of sacramental ingestion of plants in a
> > religious context.
> >
> > In 1976 R. Gordon Wasson told James, in his opinion, James was the 
> 
> > world's
> > leading expert in the field of Ethno-Mycology, as it pertains to
> > Christianity. He also referred to James as his dear friend. This
> was  
> > over
> > 20 years ago and James has never stopped studying since. James
> devotes  
> > his
> > work to his Mentor and friend R. Gordon Wasson and considers
> Gordon's
> > life's work to be "The roots for the most valuable study of all".
> >
> > Mushrooms/Religion/Ethno-Mycology
> >
> > James Arthur has been a long time Student of Tibetan Buddhism
> (under  
> > the
> > Guidance of Lama Tharchin Rimposhee, Lama Lodro, and many others). 
> 
> > James'
> > Tibetan name "DORJE DROLOD" has deep meaning in itself.
> >
> > James is also an ordained Christian Priest. This is not meant to be
> a
> > condoning of any priesthood or Christian religion but is only
> > mentioned for
> > reference purposes to show an in-depth familiarity (due to
> > extensive study)
> > with Christianity. James advises against joining any priesthood,  
> > religion,
> > church or organization that requires a sworn oath or acceptance
> > of a belief
> > system.
> >
> > James exposes faults as well as positive aspects of religion, a  
> > necessary
> > step for anyone in the type of position he is in. As a teacher he  
> > releases
> > the bonds of religious upbringing and indoctrination; empowering
> the
> > individual. He considers study of all religions valuable as long as
>  
> > one is
> > careful to discern between fantasy and reality and understand
> > that the only
> > universal law is the "Golden Rule".
> >
> > James is/has been friends, and/or is associated with: R. Gordon
> Wasson,
> > Terence McKenna, Sasha Shulgin, K. Trout, Dan Russell, Thomas
> > Lyttle, Myron
> > Stolaroff, David Hatcher Childress, William Bramley, Acharya S.,
> Arthur
> > Horn, Richard C. Hoagland, Stan Tennen, Lloyd Pye, Jordan Maxwell,
> > Zechariah Sitchin, Neil Slade, Iona Miller, John Major Jenkins,
> William
> > Henry, Jason Salzmann, John Allegro, Amado Crowley, David Aurora,
> Paul
> > Stamets, Wade Davis, Peter Furst, Jace Callaway, Jochen Gartz,
> Giorgio
> > Samorini, Christopher Dunn, Alan Alford, Karena Bryan, Abd el'
> Hakim
> > Awayan, Stephen Mehler, Alan Alford, Ananda, Jack Barranger, Robert
> > Eisenmann, John Allen, Paul Kroeger, Dale Pendell, Ann Shulgin,
> Andrew
> > Weil, Manny Salzmann, Wade Davis, Bo Holmstedt, Gary Lincoff,
> Dennis
> > McKenna, Taylor Lockwood and many others who have helped him to
> piece
> > together the fabric of one of the most fascinating quilts of
> > understanding.
> > The quest for the meaning of life. It is highly recommended that
> you
> > further research the names on this list.
> >
> > James has lectured at conferences, given instruction, and advised
> in  
> > the
> > fields of Ethno-Mycology, Shamanism, Religious Theology (Ancient
> > and Modern
> > Religions), Psychology, and Soul Healing in The United States and  
> > abroad
> > for the last 19 years. A long time member of the M.S.S.F.,
> N.A.M.A., An
> > Ordained Priest, and qualified reader of the Tibetan Book Of The
> Dead,  
> > he
> > has appeared on Radio talk shows such as Coast To Coast AM, "The
> Heart  
> > of
> > The Matter" a "Perceptions Magazine" Radio show with Host Ivie
> > West, "Hilly
> > Rose" (The Master of Talk Radio), "Strange Universe" with host Sean
>  
> > David
> > Morton, Santa Cruz based radio show "The Night Hawk" with host Dave
>  
> > Allen,
> > The Jeff Rense Program, "The Laura Lee Show" with host Laura Lee,
> "The  
> > Lou
> > Epton Show" with host Lou Epton, "The Jack Stockwell Show" with
> host  
> > Jack
> > Stockwell, "The X-Zone" with host Rob McConnell, KPFK's "Roy of  
> > Hollywood"
> > with hosts Jordan Maxwell and Eben Rey, various programs broadcast
> > world-wide on WWCR (World Wide Christian Radio), "The Mythos  
> > Freethought
> > Radio" with Host Wade Mythos, "Parascience and Beyond" with host
> Uri
> > Geller. Co-guest appearances with Jordan Maxwell, and John Rapoport
> > discussing Secret Societies and Initiatory Rites are the types of  
> > programs
> > that have sparked considerable thought. Special appearances at the
> > Mycological Society of San Francisco's (M.S.S.F.) 30th anniversary 
> 
> > fungus
> > fair, The Consciousness Technologies Conference in Sisters, Oregon,
> The
> > Breitenbush Mushroom Festival (Oregon) and the Ancient Wisdom
> > Conference in
> > Gizeh, Egypt are examples of the various live speaking appearances
> in  
> > the
> > last few years.
> >
> >
> > James has theories that have been making many knowledgeable
> > people stand up
> > and listen. He pulls no punches when it comes to explaining the  
> > origins of
> > and establishment of religions and the usage of plants as spiritual
>  
> > tools
> > throughout human history. Controversial and stunning, mind blowing
> and
> > thought provoking he is a dynamic speaker that interjects some
> great  
> > humor
> > into otherwise devastatingly serious topics. As he puts it and I
> > wholeheartedly agree:
> >
> > "The time has come for this knowledge to be revealed into plain
> sight.  
> > It
> > is no longer the property of those few elite to keep hidden from
> the
> > general population. The sleepers must awaken" --James Arthur 1998
> >
> > I invite you to read very closely a message of profound importance
> in  
> > our
> > times.
> >
> > Jordan Maxwell - 1998
> >
> >
> >  From Scott Brown An email to Lloyd Pye...
> >
> > I suppose you might have already received this news, but it's very
> sad.
> > I've more than once been to his web site and spent hours there; in 
> 
> > fact,
> > he's the one who first made me aware of the work of Gordon Wasson
> and  
> > Carl
> > Ruck, whose books I regularly (as recently as yesterday) cite for
> my
> > interpretations of Plato and Nietzsche (Birth of Tragedy; i.e., the
>  
> > style
> > and potency of the intoxicants involved in the development of
> ancient
> > tragedy (a word that means "goat song," in reference to the role of
> the
> > Satyrs and the choric origin of tragedy, which Nietzsche says the  
> > ancients
> > tell us was in origin chorus and nothing but chorus--which I've of 
> 
> > course
> > also confirmed from more standard sources). I even write the titles
> of
> > Wasson and Ruck on the board for those students interested in  
> > following it
> > up.
> >
> > James Arthur is entirely responsible for my becoming aware of this 
> 
> > work,
> > which is actually something I've learned about since the time you
> and I
> > have corresponding. From his site, I gathered he wasn't near the
> > accomplished writer that I presume Mckenna was (not able to afford
> his
> > books) from the fact that transcripts of his speech, as well as
> what I
> > heard live of him on Art Bell on more than one occasion; but talk
> about
> > lucid insights: James Arthur conveyed avenues of the relevance of
> > hallucinogens to philosophy in ways that made it possible, even  
> > necessary,
> > to incorporate this work directly into my lectures even to
> introductory
> > philosophy students.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > On Sunday 17 April 2005 10:56 am, [Jeffrey Benner] wrote:
> >
> >> In 1976 R. Gordon Wasson told James, in his opinion, James was the
> >> world's leading expert in the field of Ethno-Mycology, as it
> > pertains to
> >> Christianity.
> >
> > I find this very, very unlikely.  If anyone happens to turn up
> > any evidence
> > of
> > this, please let me know, but my guess is that this would qualify
> as  
> > "not
> > accurate".
> >
> > Lest anyone on VPL be confused by these "biographies" of the
> "world's
> > foremost
> > ethno-mycologist", I feel the need to chime in here.
> >
> > Not to speak too ill of the dead, but James Arthur was not a  
> > researcher or
> > academic.  He was not a person who was asked to speak more than
> once by
> > serious groups because his rants were so absurd, disjointed, and
> > off-topic.
> > His books are bad, his videos are worse, and his public lecturers
> > sometimes
> > bordered on the insane.
> >
> > Because our negative reviews of his videos and books upset him, we 
> 
> > toned
> > them
> > down, but needless to say they are not useful as references and,
> > when asked
> > for citations for some of his points, he claimed that they were
> secret  
> > so
> > that other people couldn't steal his work.  He further claimed
> > this was the
> > norm in "his field" and that implied it was stupid of us to ask.
> >
> > He seemed like he might be a fun guy to have a smoke and a beer
> with,
> > ranting
> > and fanciful thinking seemed to be his forte.  But accuracy and
> > scholarship
> > are not high among the list of things he will be remembered for.
> >
> > earth
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > From: Robert Forte <robertforte at earthlink.net>
> > To: vpl at mindspace.org
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > In-Reply-To:
> > <200504171758.1dnkAx6Gc3NZFpQ0 at mx-a065b28.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
> > Message-Id: <9BB75688-AFDC-11D9-9E09-000A957D07C8 at earthlink.net>
> >
> > Thank you Earth.  I have to agree.  I knew Gordon Wasson and am  
> > currently
> > publisher of his books.  He would certainly not endorse James
> > Arthur, who I
> > had the challenging experience of meeting once. I found him to be
> very
> > eager to rudely assert himself into the complex subjects that
> Wasson
> > explored with depth and wisdom.  Arthur was, obvious to me, a
> > fame seeking,
> > small minded exploiter and a pitiful annoyance.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > From: Murple <murple at murple.net>
> > To: vpl at mindspace.org
> > Message-Id: <20050418044810.36ed6f6c.murple at murple.net>
> > In-Reply-To: <9BB75688-AFDC-11D9-9E09-000A957D07C8 at earthlink.net>
> > References:
> > <200504171758.1dnkAx6Gc3NZFpQ0 at mx-a065b28.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
> > <9BB75688-AFDC-11D9-9E09-000A957D07C8 at earthlink.net>
> >
> > "Fame seeking"... maybe, but he seemed to believe what he was
> saying. I
> > dont think this or "small minded exploiter" apply, whatever else
> you  
> > can
> > say about him. Honestly I just skipped most of his posts, so maybe
> I
> > missed some fame/money begging, but the stuff I did read was bad
> but  
> > not
> > in an exploitive way. He really seemed to be honest as far as his
> > beliefs, its just that his beliefs were absurd. As much as he
> butchered
> > psychedelics research and ethnopharmacology... well, I've spent
> many
> > years researching Gnosticism and early Christianity. Whether you
> take
> > the Gnostic position as I do, the Orthodox position of Catholicism
> and
> > Protestantism, or any other historic vision of the first 3
> centuries  
> > AD,
> > anybody with even basic familiarity with the history of the
> movements
> > would find Arthur's interpretation to be laughable. There is
> nothing in
> > the New Testament, Nag Hammadi texts, or other early Christian,
> Gnostic
> > or related movements to back up claims that they were inspired by
> or
> > influenced by psychedelic mushrooms or other drugs.
> >
> > And regarding the pedophile stuff... I'll have to look through my
> mail
> > archives. I'm like 75% sure he's the one who was saying how its
> good  
> > for
> > kids. If so, between that and the jail suicide, thats pretty
> convincing
> > evidence of guilt, even if he never goes to trial. If true, thats  
> > pretty
> > hard to beat on the sleazometer.
> >
> > Aren't we psychedelics enthusiasts so lucky to have such allies?
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > URL:
> > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/11/state/n105
> > 803D88.DTL
> >
> > text:
> > News from the San Joaquin Valley
> > Associated Press
> >
> > MADERA, Calif. - The death of a Madera County Jail inmate found in
> > his cell last week has been ruled a suicide, authorities said.
> >
> > James Arthur Dugovic, 47, of Bass Lake, was discovered by jailers
> > Friday afternoon with a bed sheet tied around his neck.
> > Dugovic was taken to Madera Community Hospital, where he was
> > pronounced dead.
> > He was arrested in April 2004, Madera County Sheriff's Department
> > spokeswoman Erica Stuart said. Stuart said Dugovic was a registered
> > sex offender facing new charges of sexual misconduct with children.
> >
> > Dugovic reportedly was set to appear in court April 26 for a
> > preliminary hearing on child molestation charges. He had pleaded
> > not guilty and was held in Madera County Jail on $300,000 bail.
> >
> > URL:
> > http://www.fresnobee.com/local/v-textonly/story/10295093p 
> > -11103103c.html
> >
> > text:
> > Inmate's death is ruled a suicide
> > James Dugovic, 47, died in Madera jail cell.
> >
> > By Charles McCarthy / The Fresno Bee
> >
> > Published 04/12/05 00:00:00
> >
> > MADERA - The death of a Madera County Jail inmate found with a
> bedsheet
> > noose looped around his neck has been ruled a suicide, the
> > Sheriff/Coroner's Office reported Monday.
> >
> > Coroner's Deputy Mike Moslbergen identified the inmate found Friday
> > afternoon by a correctional officer as James Arthur Dugovic, 47, of
>  
> > Bass
> > Lake.
> >
> > He was taken to Madera Community Hospital, where he was pronounced 
> 
> > dead.
> >
> > Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Erica Stuart said Dugovic was
> arrested
> > April 25, 2004. She identified him as a registered sex offender
> facing  
> > new
> > charges of sexual misconduct with children.
> >
> > Dugovic reportedly was facing an April 26 preliminary evidence
> hearing  
> > in
> > Madera on child molestation charges. He had pleaded not guilty and
> was
> > being held in Madera County Jail on $300,000 bail.
> >
> > According to a complaint filed against Dugovic by the Madera County
> > District Attorney's Office in May 2004, he was named as a suspect
> in  
> > six
> > felony counts involving three children younger than age 14.
> >
> > Papers filed in Madera against the defendant also allege he was  
> > convicted
> > of a sex crime in Fresno County Superior Court in 1996.
> >
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