[Ibogaine] I need help on how to feel better -- anything at all, aside from a 45

Todd Morgan sovntm at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 5 13:20:14 EDT 2005

"...trails at night can last days, weeks even months
(though an artifact by then),"

I had them this weekend after a big meal with friends
and lots of wine.....over 3 months later.  It was
pretty cool.

--- Brett Calabrese <bcalabrese at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ditto on the congradulations and other suggestions.
> I know, YUCK! Give it a few days and you will snap
> out of (most of) it.  Drink fluids, eat HEALTHY food
> (no junk, soda, cand, cold-cuts...) fruits, veggies,
> any generic "detox tea" findable at a health food
> store, Vitamins help, B-Complex, phenylalanine
> shorten the recovery.. Part of it is how "toxic" you
> are/were, if I took ibo now my recovery would be
> much shorter. If you get cravings you msy want to
> try "Rescue Remedy" (Bache flower remedies.available
> at any health-food store, great for kids and cats
> too..), and um (and this sounds silly) but think
> about/do something else - really if you can master
> that 1 thing, you got it.. Indra/extracts tend to
> take a bit longer to recover from. And move a bit,
> but then not too fast or too muc, staying still is
> often more comfortable for several days, oozyness is
> most often early in the AM and at dusk, trails at
> night can last days, weeks even months (though an
> artifact by then), it can take
>  several weeks to sleep normally - for myself I
> don't care for "meds" post session, but some
> people/sometimes a little benzo helps (ie valium) -
> you may consider that better than something else...
> just easy with the meds. Do what you can safely
> do/need  and don't do what you can't, smoking
> "somethng" is an option for some people, other
> people can't (and think you shouldn't also...).
> Be well,
> Brett
> jon <jfreed1 at umbc.edu> wrote:
> > Now to the point of this meaningless babbling
> (finally!). Am I supposed
> > to
> > feel this bad? I feel like I was shot at and
> missed, shit at and hit. It
> > is a little better today but I am REALLY REALLY
> drug out. What does
> > anyone
> > suggest? Vitamin B 12, herbs, or what? I know that
> with one narcotic I
> > would be back to my normal self withing 3 minutes.
> I am not going to do
> > it
> > but I know it would work the miracle. Any advice
> anyone has concerning
> > how
> > to get thought the next few weeks -- would be
> appreciated. I have an
> > extremely busy business and I don't know if I can
> do it feeling like this.
> > Thanks.
> ello,
> congrats on being craving free =)
> some herbs you might want to try to make yourself
> more comfortable:
> kava - used to treat anxiety and stres... i highly
> recommend it, i think
> in you situation it could help you feel a good deal
> better. you can take
> it in pills, if you do, get an standardised extract
> rather than the whole
> root, and make sure it has a high kavalactone
> content (%70 is the best out
> there, i think). if you're feeling adventurous, you
> can also make the
> tradition kava drink. if you're interested in try
> that, you can get a
> bunch of recipes off the web... one site i found is
> http://www.kickbackwithkava.com/Kava_Recipies.htm
> valerian root - used to treat insomnia and anxiety.
> this might be a
> particularly good thing to get too. like kava, make
> sure it's a
> standardised preparation. while valerian is most
> often used to help people
> get to sleep, i've found it's also pretty effective
> for anxiety and body
> aches.
> amino acids - these are the building blocks for
> neurotransmitters, so
> making sure you're getting enough is very important
> for your mood and
> cognitive abilities. you can eat foods with good
> amino acid profiles, like
> hemp and flax and such, or get multi amino acid
> pills. or both.
> st john's wort - an herb that acts as a mild
> serotonin reuptake inhibitor
> (don't take if you're on an antidepresant though)
> tryptophan or 5-htp - tryptophan is the amino acid
> that serotonin is made
> out of. 5-htp is an intermediate chemical that's
> made in the process of
> turning tryptophan into serotonin. it's easier to
> get ahold of in the US
> than tryptophan, but it isn't as effective because
> it doesn't cross the
> blood-brain barrier very well. (also don't take if
> you're on an
> antidepressant)
> L-phenylalanine - an amino acid used by the body to
> make dopamine,
> norepinepherine, and epinepherine (adrenalin). can
> be very useful, but
> don't take if you're on an antidepressant, or have
> any other condition in
> which phenylalanine or tyrosine is contraindicated
> (eg PKU)
> california poppy - an herb used as a pain reliever
> and mild sedative.
> usually taken as a tea.
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