[ibogaine]the idea of tripping.

Preston Peet ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Tue Aug 31 10:15:27 EDT 2004

Hey Sara,
    I know I've said this before, but a trip to your house seems like
something I'm really gonna have tp make someday or other. I gotta go get a
new passport first though, and oh, you know, scrape together some money and
the like, and living in Manhattan doesn't exactly help me with that.
Peace and love and thanks kindly for posting this.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sara Glatt" <sara119 at xs4all.nl>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: [ibogaine]the idea of tripping.

> Hi Jasen,
> Sometimes it is scary to think about tripping, but even without tripping
> mushrooms in small amount can help you therapeutically.
> It isn't about fun, but about a rollercoaster, when you come out of it you
> are happy to be alive. A short cut to transformation on many levels.
> Here is something I like to share with you, about the help of plant
> medicinal.
> Dear Friends,
> It is not always easy to work with Ayahuasca. There is for example the
> demand to make and test the Ayahuasca that you are going to use on
> before you give it to anyone else. This process carries certain risks. I
> have been looking for all kinds of different Ayahuasca mixes to work with.
> want one that is visual, but also one that is powerful enough to keep us
> its grip, and allow for steady visions, as well as the therapeutic
> processes, that seem to come only when the visual effects are accompanied
> a 'no escape' sensation.
> These therapeutic effects are sometimes so powerful that even a person
> quite lot of experience must go through a lot of pain and suffering. I
> had a few death/re-birth experiences during the years that I took
> but last nights session was one of the most powerful I ever experienced,
> I would like to tell you a little bit about it.
> The admixture I was using is a mix of Mimosa Hostilis (Jurema) and
> Banisteriopsis Caapi (Jagube). The latter was supplied by an online
> for testing purposes only, and I was aware that it is an extract,
> concentrated 10:1. The question is however what does this really mean? In
> the Santo Daime churches there is a scale for expressing the strength of
> Daime, ranging from Primeiro Degrau (first degree) then Doubrado (doubled)
> and finally there is Mel (honey), the concentration of which is anyone's
> guess. How can such highly concentrated substances be tested, if not
> by taking some and praying that the dose is not too powerful?
> Since my supplier had received the information that the Banisteriopsis
> 10:1 mixture which came in the form of a dried powder meant that one gram
> was a full dose, I began testing it (on my own) at half its strength. I
> presumed that I would be able to feel the MAO action, as a shift in my
> Serotonin level. Peganum Harmala (Syrian Rue) can be felt quite powerfully
> after ingestion, and I presumed this would be true of the Caapi as well.
> Indeed I did feel it some minutes after I ingested it, but I did not take
> any DMT containing substance, and the effects went unnoticed after about
> hours.
> I decided to spend the Saturday at Sara's house, and take a new dose there
> with her. This time, I served myself a full dose of 1 gram (dissolved in
> water) and drank a full does of Jurema a few minutes later. I gave Sara a
> smaller dose, which was unnecessary I found out later, because she has had
> much experience with Iboga, and that substance is much more powerful.
> about half an hour the force of the Ayahuasca gripped me. I threw up, but
> that did nothing to lessen the onslaught. It is hard to describe the
> gripping force of the substance, but I felt as if my body and mind were
> in a vice, a vice that was moving and flying through space and time. I was
> unable to focus, and hardly able to sit still. I started to have my doubts
> about the dosage, and to think that I had maybe made a mistake, perhaps
> a lethal one. Sara on the other hand seemed fairly relaxed, lying on the
> couch with a blanket over herself.
> I decided that I would have to go all the way this time, even if it meant
> dying, I wanted to lose it: just surrender to whatever it was that was
> to happen. I started to say goodbye and thank all the people and spirits
> that had been guiding me. Naturally there was a lot of sorrow, and I was
> very grateful for Sara being there, and allowing me to express my
> I could not feel the end of the tunnel, but gradually as I resigned
> the feelings of dread started to lift. Perhaps many years ago I would have
> been unable to see that I had survived, but things have changed, and I
> laugh again, still a little shaky but nonetheless a lot wiser.
> I am so glad that I had that experience, and I know that such therapeutic
> doses are what I wish to work with, but I have never allowed myself the
> freedom to administer them myself, for the simple reason that I would
> give someone something that I had not taken myself. Now I know what a high
> dose I can administer, new possibilities open themselves, for those
> who wish to experience this for themselves, and have adequate guidance and
> friendship and love around them while they are processing whatever comes
> such a dose is now available!
> This session has allowed me to reconsider a number of things (including a
> few personal matters as you may imagine) and one of the things I would
> to try is to offer such healing works in small groups. There will be a
> financial contribution to make, of around 85 -100 euros per session. The
> I have arrived at this figure is by comparing the type of work going on at
> the Santo Daime and other Ayahuasca groups. Therapeutic results reached
> during such sessions normally occur only infrequently, the norm seems to
> that one has to ask for a larger than normal dose, but in such large
> it is very hard to willingly take such large doses and allow the spirit of
> the Ayahuasca to take over completely. Secondly, the substance itself
> quite a lot more to prepare than if it were made in large batches, such as
> the Daime. Thirdly, any money left over after the costs of the substance
> have been deducted, go towards the house where the session takes place, in
> this case Sara's home, which is a place where healing takes place, and
> Iboga is used to help drug addicts free themselves. Sara tries to make
> work affordable, but it is difficult for her to make ends meet, so I would
> like to help her this way.
> We can be contacted at the following e-mail adresses:
> Daniel Nashiv Waterman : waterman.design at wxs.nl
> Sara Glatt : sara119 at xs4all.nl
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Preston Peet [mailto:ptpeet at nyc.rr.com]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 31 augustus 2004 8:23
> Aan: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [ibogaine]
> >the idea of tripping whilst hanging
> out is not very appealing,however I am sure you have reason.<
> Oh my goodness, I had the exactly opposite reaction to yours when reading
> Sara's letter Jasen.
> Peace and love,
> Preston
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