[ibogaine] Ibogaine- why didn't it work?

Sara Glatt sara119 at xs4all.nl
Thu Aug 26 18:02:48 EDT 2004

Hi J and everyone,

Personally I can't say what went wrong, 
When you do the session without an expert
It can go wrong, it can go wrong also with an expert
Only then you can talk about it , now it is hard to say
What went wrong. we don't know if your ibogaine was
Exposed to day light or not, how you treat it before taking it.
How you treated yourself before taking it. I also can give you another idea
of what I think and
The treatment providers who are experts will tell you same thing
Each person has another body tolerance to ibo.
You can't know it by yourself, you think that one gram is enough
But it isn't. you should have got more , in my opinion , when
The withdrawals started, 14 hours later. How much more ibogaine
It is hard to say, it is for an expert to say, a person who has 
Experience with treatments.
The same amount of ibo. Could be just fine for someone else.
 Ethnogarden, when they provide the ibogaine on the free market
then for sure some people will
have a negative experience and try to blame it on Ethnogarden ibo..
But then the people who have a good experience will not complain.


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Carla Barnes [mailto:carlambarnes at yahoo.com] 
Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2004 23:13
Aan: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Onderwerp: Re: [ibogaine] Ibogaine- why didn't it work?

Besides all of what Howard wrote down, the other
problem could be ethnogarden. At least on time every 3
months there is someone on this list who uses their
ibogaine and isn't happy with it. I think the last one
was Brooke the one who does Broken Saints.
http://www.brokensaints.com How are you doing Brooke? 

Then someone else asked if there was ever even one
person on this list who had a good experience with
their ibogaine and nobody said anything. I know the
person jason who runs the site posted photos of
ibogaine plants here and was a nice guy but so far
there hasn't been even one person here who used their
ibogaine and got good resuls.

Is there one person? Anyone?

Carla B

--- Ms Iboga <ms_iboga at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
> I am a new member, a recent Ibogaine inductee, and
> am
> currently starting the second week of my Ibo
> 'detox'. 
> I wish I had a more positive story to relay, but I
> do
> not.  I hope I am not breaking any list etiquette by
> posting this...
> I detoxed from methadone(35mg) using 1gm HCL
> extract,
> 98%, from Ethnogarden, and for the first 13-14 hours
> was convinced I was over opiates- no pain, lots and
> lots of euphoria/positivity.  I was even able to eat
> small amounts of Cheerios and drink apple juice. 
> How
> wrong I was....
> About an hour later(14/15 hour mark), the Ibo began
> to
> wear off substantially, and all the too familiar
> withdrawal symptoms began to slowly creep in.  I
> thought it was psychosomatic, so I closed my eyes
> and
> began to meditate, but to no avail.  Within hours, I
> was in almost full withdrawal.
> I think my problem was that I puked part of my Ibo
> dose WAY TOO SOON, and did not have another gram of
> the HCL to boost me.  I am considering weening
> myself
> from methadone by chipping with heroin, and then
> detoxing from the heroin with Ibo.  Has anyone done
> this?  Also, would administering the Ibo by enema
> quell a bit of the nausea?
> Thanks for the time to vent, list, and I hope to
> talk
> to many more of you soon.
> J.

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