[ibogaine] Re:No fun, really
ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Fri Aug 20 10:43:49 EDT 2004
>Did you guys really see IGGY?? That is so cool.<
Yep, along with the Stooges, as well as the aforementioned "wanna smoke a
bowl here in Tomkins Square Park" incident.
I too want to find more O-Rang, as I think I mentioned already. I think
one of the members was in Blur at some point, but I'm not a hundred percent
The swimming thing has really grabbed my attention I want to say, in
that I was on swim teams and such as a kid, for a number of years actually,
I got my "mile swim" badge as a boy scout and generally always loved
I'm going to look into that. There's a huge, olympic sized pool, oh,
about 3 blocks from my house, which I've never actually seen first hand but
have shot up outside of in the surrounding park, over by Ave. D, in the
Lower East Side.
btw, where I grew up, we had to be careful making dolphin noises as the
dolphines that swam past the coast of Sarasota's Siesta and Lido beaches
every dawn and dusk mighta mistaken us for fellow dolphins and boffed us to
death, or something.
I had a friend swim 3 miles in to shore once, after the hoby he was on
tipped over and the undertow dragged him out that 3 miles from shore. As the
sun began to go down with no one showing up to help him, he decided he'd
better swim back, jumped in the water, and turned around within about 50 or
so yards to check his progress- only to see two fins cut the water behind
him. After a moment or two of panic, the fins turned out to belong to two
dolphins which swam along with him until he reached the beach.
True story. It even made CNN, I think, way back when, sometime during the
I jest of course about being boffed to death- I think they only do that
in Carl Hiassen books and on nature shows.
Peace and love,
----- Original Message -----
From: Allison Senepart
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re:No fun, really
Your messages are a real inspiration Preston., It makes it all worth it
reading them. Did you guys really see IGGY?? That is so cool. Have never
heard of O Rang but will look for it if possible here in NZ> I know
swimming can be a pain at a lot of public pools but nothing beats the
feeling of finding a pool to yourself, breaking the water and just playing
or swimming,. Its kind of like the whole me thing or being able to be
yourself. I usually flip backwards, make dolphin noises and act like a
total idiot but it feels good. Allison
From: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Date: Friday, 20 August 2004 2:19:08 p.m.
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com; tomo7 at starband.net
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re:No fun, really
I think her name is Barbara Judd, but you'd better let me check that
tomorrow before calling her. As a matter of fact, I won't send you the
number until tomorrow when I'm sure it is her. I do have the number for her,
but would feel really silly if you wrote back saying you called her and she
hadn't a clue what you were talking about.
>The sheer opportunity for personal change this plant
offers is just magickal.<
I completely agree.
>As for the "not fun" thread, that depends on what each of us brings to the
table, emotionally, you know? I'm flashing on Iggy and his Stooges and
their version of "No Fun".<
I have been a Stooges fan for years and years. V and I saw Iggy walking
around LES one afternoon and followed him into Tomkins Square Park where I
asked if he wanted to smoke a bowl. "No, thank you," he said in his funny
He was so cute! (In a non-gay sort of way of course...LOL)
We saw them play (Stooges) on their first recent reunion tour, but missed
the last show just a few nights ago.
And I do agree basically with your assessment of the "no fun" thing.
>Do you have any CD's of your DJ sessions available?<
V does, but I've not gotten to that point yet. Post ibo, I have to admit,
I've suddenly found I not only like experimenting with new real mixing work,
you know, 2 songs at one time thing, but am actually able to do it somewhat.
My girlfriend is the "real" dj in our home still. She first was the one who
decided she wanted to do it- I caught the bug from watching her first buy
turn tables, then actually go out and get herself a decent paying gig doing
it. "If she can do it, well then, I can do it too!" I thought, and sure
enough I can. That said, I usually merely "play" music I like and appeals to
me, but haven't been doing the "mixing" thing until very recently- and am
loving it. As soon as I do burn some stuff I'll be sure to let you know and
get your address. I'd love to share.
moving to the Southwestern desert, a void of hip culture has been my
second most uncomfortable collateral damage. The first being no available
modern olympic swimming pools to keep in touch with the water goddess.
Any CD's or links to internet radio programming you are moved by would be
I've been taking baths almost daily- but I don't like public swimming pools,
they sort of creep me out, and the North Atlantic (or mid-Atlantic,
whatever) where I live isn't the most appealing of beaches/swimming water-
especially having grown up in Sarasota, Florida, which to this day has some
of the nicest most beautiful beaches I've ever seen and visited.
One particular CD that I've been playing the hell outta lately, post
particularly, since pre-ibo I'd not for some reason paid it much attention,
is Perry Ferrel's solo album called "A Song Yet to be Sung." It's brilliant
and beautiful. It's not Jane's Addiction, but that's cool, it's different. I
can definitely hear traces of Porno for Pyros in it, but it is still a bit
different than that.
If you can find the band O Rang you'll be doing yourself a big favor
too- the album I have is called "Fields and Waves," that is absolutely
brilliant. I played it through twice, first time through while waiting for
the ibo to take effect and the second time, well, let's just say I almost
wasn't able to sit up long enough to hit "play" again- and it was AWESOME to
slide into the ibo space with this playing softly. I coulda actually used a
little more volume, but I was listening for ibo messages too and didn't want
to be distracted. Don't know if that was a mistake or not actually, partly
due to reading Marc's post and talking to him too about his listening to the
jazz stuff and how effective it was for him. Anyway, O Rang I've discovered
is now out of print, so it's going to be tough to find- they've got another
album too called something like "Instinct of Herds" or something along those
lines, I jsut found out today while looking for more of their stuff, but as
noted, all their work (both albums) are out of print so I can't even order
it through Virgin Mega-Store where I was today. I found and bought my VERY
FIRST EVER electronica music cd today- all Jane's Addiction covers too. LOL,
how happy was I to find this? Very. I was looking for something totally
different than my usual choices, so I bought that cover cd, but then I also
found "In the Flat Fields" by Bauhaus on sale and couldn't resist snatching
that too, as they are my all time very very very very very very very very
very very (other than perhaps for the Cure) all time favorite band ever.
so before I ramble on any further I bid you all (and Tom too since this
is mostly answering his email) adieu, good night, and lots of real genuine
heartfelt peace and love,
----- Original Message -----
From: <tomo7 at starband.net>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Cc: <ptpeet at nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: [ibogaine] Re:No fun, really
> Please send me the contact info for your post-ibo support guy or gal. That
> is the area we want to get better with out here for our west coast,
> southwest area sessions. We have great results with regular real people,
> but experienced, (or willing to become experienced) counselors are fewer.
> I hope to learn the protocols and techniques they are finding most
> I'm liking your narrative to the list, congratulations on the rejuvenation
> of your brain and body. That is a sacred gift from this plant and I'm
> glad you can gift back to us your DJ work and your articulate sharing on
> MindVox. Time passing gives people a "window" of 2-3 months, post ibo, for
> this willpower and awareness boost to help put in place better choices and
> health patterns. Genuine second chances are pretty rare out here in
> consensus reality. The sheer opportunity for personal change this plant
> offers is just magickal.
> As for the "not fun" thread, that depends on what each of us brings to the
> table, emotionally, you know? I'm flashing on Iggy and his Stooges and
> their version of "No Fun"...There are plenty of walking wounded with
> trails of woe seeking a save in their session with ibo. Some people have
> worked on themselves and let go of most of their pain and trauma in
> decades past from that work. These clients report an intensity and depth
> from this that definately isn't party-hearty type fun, but it's more up
> than the hell patrol many addicts are describing. Everyone has their place
> on The Wheel, I guess. Grinding down an ego has to be uncomfortable, it
> Do you have any CD's of your DJ sessions available? I'm familiar with and
> fond of a lot of avante-gard alternative rock and techno music, but since
> moving to the Southwestern desert, a void of hip culture has been my
> second most uncomfortable collateral damage. The first being no available
> modern olympic swimming pools to keep in touch with the water goddess.
> Any CD's or links to internet radio programming you are moved by would be
> very welcome.
> Dr. Tom
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