[ibogaine] the magical sara

Carla Barnes carlambarnes at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 17 22:19:00 EDT 2004

To everybody on this list I love all of you! :-)

Howard, you're turning into patrick :-) Both of you
should write a study together, I'd love to read it :-)


Carla B

--- "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at phantom.com> wrote:
> ...
> While further research is needed, and we currently
> lack adequate data 
> to provide conclusive proof of this theory;
> preliminary pre-clinical 
> studies seem to strongly suggest that drug-dependent
> patients prefer 
> getting fucked-up on hallucinogens and detoxing
> painlessly -- over 
> sweating and shaking for 3 months.  Although these
> findings are 
> unprecedented and highly unexpected, we're confident
> that we can 
> accumulate sufficient documentation to prove this
> hypothesis, by 
> rounding up the wandering lunatics and getting them
> to sit down and 
> play connect-the-dots on 6 feet of questionnaires.
> "We'd like to attach another 13 pieces of hardware
> to you.  D'ya mind?"
> 		-- Ibogaine Research Project / Planet Earth (I
> Think)
> ...

--- HSLotsof at aol.com wrote:
> My guess is it is Sara not excluding far out
> patients that is providing these 
> far out responses.  But, nothing is written in
> stone.  When Patrick conducts 
> the double blind Sara/Deborah study and the same
> patients all have far out 
> responses with sara and mundane responses with
> deborah, all of course with the 
> benefits of statistical analysis then we may get
> some answers or not but, in any 
> case further research and research funding will be
> required. Most scientfiic 
> papers end with a call for further research that
> indicates an understanding 
> that further funding will be required.
> Howard

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