Music, Trance and Dance therapies
kevyn at the Cluster
kevyn at pagancluster.org
Sun Aug 15 16:07:24 EDT 2004
Another interesting source of information regarding music and therapy, I
think I have mentioned it before, is the research of TTT. Or
A great book called TTT "An Introduction to Trance Dancing" written by
He was a student doing research and followed Dr. David Akstein, M.D. and
President, International Association for T.T.T., Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
The book is intended to introduce T.T.T. to North Americans. It was
developed in Brazil by David Akstein after studying ritual trance in its
indigenous forms for over 25 years.
This is the main reason I am interested in Ibogaine and what is
happening there. It is one form, and if there is knowledge from all of
the old healing methods made available again, well it surely makes us
all less ignorant and hopefully easier to find the life we want to live.
We are attempting to put together a retreat to have T.T.T. sessions in
Alberta, and I want to offer a safe place possibly for Iboga treatment
I surely need to get more knowledgable first, but thanks to you all on
the list I have been in a crash course of learning over the past 6-8
Cheers for that>
Keep it up Preston!
From: HSLotsof at aol.com [mailto:HSLotsof at aol.com]
Sent: August 15, 2004 9:10 AM
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re: preston/music and ibogaine
Don't know if you are familiar with Uwe Maas and Süster Strubelt's page
Bwiti music and iboga. Maas and Strubelt propose that music changes
phramacology. Sounds good. There are also so interesting Bwiti mp3
clips on the page.
Music in the Iboga initiation ceremony in Gabon: Polyrhythms supporting
The page also contains great images.
Or go to the links section of the Ibogaine Dossier
http://www.ibogaine.org/links.html and find the link.
Glad you love V. She obviously loves you. Important that you also love
In a message dated 8/15/04 9:49:05 AM, ptpeet at nyc.rr.com writes:
<< Curtis, you asked >How are you doing right now a few days out of it?<
At first when dusk first settled in last night, I felt like I might once
again be seeing trails, but it quickly faded away.
Then I went out to the Slipper Room very late, at around 1:30AM or
where V dj's every Saturday. I still wasn't trippy really at all, UNTIL
took over on the cd decks- boy oh boy there is really something magical
about music, that I know but always seem to forget if I'm not careful,
it sets me right the heck off.
I was full on seeing designs and trails again, off things like
on stage, and off dancing drunk maniacs (in the good sense of that
also felt happier and constructive simply playing and mixing.
I had a lurch in my great, golden mood last night, and threw myself
a real funk about it. My initial reaction was to think, "ok, where the
did V put my morphine," but amazingly, and I know it's only been a few
so everything is still fresh and new and seems as though it should at
be easier, I did NOT go lookin' for the bottle, I got dressed, did my
and such, and got the hell out of the apartment instead and did
focused and positive instead of retreating and withdrawing into that
of "I don't wanna feel anything at all" that I usually am so ready to
And it was a great idea to do so, to get the heck out and interact
other people and with my music.
Really, I am reacting and thinking very differently, but still, I'm
feeling still nervous about the whole pain meds thing.
You asked me Curtis, why I don't just stay away from the dilaudids
The problem is that while the ms-contins are great, crushed, for hitting
pain within an hour of taking them, if I were to take them whole, they
out relief over the whole 12 hours way too slowly to help me deal with
pain. So I'd like the option of being able to eat a dilaudid when I
absultely need immediate-ish relief and then take the ms-contins on
schedule, uncrushed and as ordered.
Things seem to be working out.
I'm in a good space today.
V wrote me the wisest most beautiful mail this morning after I went
bed, encouraging me and letting me know how happy she herself is with
way things are progressing, that she fully supports another session and
matter what she loves me.
What a great note to read first thing in the morning- to quote an
>You're doing so well --Just keep focused on all the other things
busy with since your trip and the right time will present itself to you
its right - remember " a Wizard is never early or late -he arrives
when he intends too"-(Gandolph) =Ibogaine being the wizard -you being
Your enthusiasm is great - Keep it up , but beware of Jealous energy
vampires who can become enviousof your happiness with your new outlook-<
God damn I love this lady. Have I already said that?
Peace and love all, gotta go out and do busy stuff now.
----- Original Message -----
From: <crownofthorns at hushmail.com>
To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 4:37 AM
Subject: [ibogaine] preston
> Preston how are you doing bro? I didn't get the
> chance to feel that big reset that you're talking
> about I was already clean for a long time before
> I ever did ibo for the first time. I didn't even
> know what it was until I found this list and
> even that was by accident when I was searching
> through old domains and seeing what happened to
> phantom and it led here :-)
> Between what you, Patrick and Dave and whoever
> I forgot have said, ibogaine is doing a reset
> on you even if you do much more drugs before
> it instead of doing less, which I what I thought.
> How are you doing right now a few days out of it?
> Patrick, I really like the Keeping Clean section,
> it keeps growing and you never post any updates ;-)
> What am I saying, that would ruin the charm of
> this place ;-) One thing I would say to you bro
> is that you're printing some of Stanton Peels
> articles, he sues people for doing that. If you
> look at his site there is a 5 paragraph long
> legal warning at the bottom of every page you
> may want to include something else even if I
> really like what he has to say.
> Love the treatment section :-)
> Preston why not stay away from the dils if you
> know they are what lead you to trouble and stick
> with the oxy?
> Peace out
> Curtis >>
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