Music, Trance and Dance therapies

kevyn at the Cluster kevyn at
Sun Aug 15 16:07:24 EDT 2004

Another interesting source of information regarding music and therapy, I
think I have mentioned it before, is the research of TTT. Or
A great book called TTT "An Introduction to Trance Dancing" written by
Doug Morgan.
He was a student doing research and followed Dr. David Akstein, M.D. and
President, International Association for T.T.T., Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
The book is intended to introduce T.T.T. to North Americans. It was
developed in Brazil by David Akstein after studying ritual trance in its
indigenous forms for over 25 years.

This is the main reason I am interested in Ibogaine and what is
happening there. It is one form, and if there is knowledge from all of
the old healing methods made available again, well it surely makes us
all less ignorant and hopefully easier to find the life we want to live.

We are attempting to put together a retreat to have T.T.T. sessions in
Alberta, and I want to offer a safe place possibly for Iboga treatment
as well.
I surely need to get more knowledgable first, but thanks to you all on
the list I have been in a crash course of learning over the past 6-8
Cheers for that>

Keep it up Preston!

-----Original Message-----
From: HSLotsof at [mailto:HSLotsof at] 
Sent: August 15, 2004 9:10 AM
To: ibogaine at
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re: preston/music and ibogaine


Don't know if you are familiar with Uwe Maas and Süster Strubelt's page
Bwiti music and iboga.  Maas and Strubelt propose that music changes 
phramacology.  Sounds good.  There are also so interesting Bwiti mp3
clips on the page.  
Music in the Iboga initiation ceremony in Gabon: Polyrhythms supporting

The page also contains great images.

Or go to the links section of the Ibogaine Dossier and find the link.

Glad you love V.  She obviously loves you.  Important that you also love


In a message dated 8/15/04 9:49:05 AM, ptpeet at writes:

<< Curtis, you asked >How are you doing right now a few days out of it?<

At first when dusk first settled in last night, I felt like I might once

again be seeing trails, but it quickly faded away.

    Then I went out to the Slipper Room very late, at around 1:30AM or

where V dj's every Saturday. I still wasn't trippy really at all, UNTIL

took over on the cd decks- boy oh boy there is really something magical

about music, that I know but always seem to forget if I'm not careful,

it sets me right the heck off.

    I was full on seeing designs and trails again, off things like

on stage, and off dancing drunk maniacs (in the good sense of that
word). I

also felt happier and constructive simply playing and mixing.

    I had a lurch in my great, golden mood last night, and threw myself

a real funk about it. My initial reaction was to think, "ok, where the

did V put my morphine," but amazingly, and I know it's only been a few

so everything is still fresh and new and seems as though it should at

be easier, I did NOT go lookin' for the bottle, I got dressed, did my

and such, and got the hell out of the apartment instead and did

focused and positive instead of retreating and withdrawing into that

of "I don't wanna feel anything at all" that I usually am so ready to

retreat to.

    And it was a great idea to do so, to get the heck out and interact

other people and with my music.

    Really, I am reacting and thinking very differently, but still, I'm

feeling still nervous about the whole pain meds thing.

You asked me Curtis, why I don't just stay away from the dilaudids

The problem is that while the ms-contins are great, crushed, for hitting

pain within an hour of taking them, if I were to take them whole, they

out relief over the whole 12 hours way too slowly to help me deal with

pain. So I'd like the option of being able to eat a dilaudid when I

absultely need immediate-ish relief and then take the ms-contins on

schedule, uncrushed and as ordered.

    Things seem to be working out.

    I'm in a good space today.

    V wrote me the wisest most beautiful mail this morning after I went

bed, encouraging me and letting me know how happy she herself is with

way things are progressing, that she fully supports another session and

matter what she loves me.

    What a great note to read first thing in the morning- to quote an


>You're doing so well --Just  keep focused on all the other things


busy with since your trip and the right time will present itself to you

its right - remember " a Wizard is never early or late -he arrives

when he intends too"-(Gandolph) =Ibogaine being the wizard -you being


    Your enthusiasm is great - Keep it up , but beware of Jealous energy

vampires who can become enviousof your happiness with your new outlook-<

God damn I love this lady. Have I already said that?

Peace and love all, gotta go out and do busy stuff now.


----- Original Message ----- 

From: <crownofthorns at>

To: <ibogaine at>

Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 4:37 AM

Subject: [ibogaine] preston


> Preston how are you doing bro? I didn't get the

> chance to feel that big reset that you're talking

> about I was already clean for a long time before

> I ever did ibo for the first time. I didn't even

> know what it was until I found this list and

> even that was by accident when I was searching

> through old domains and seeing what happened to

> phantom and it led here :-)


> Between what you, Patrick and Dave and whoever

> I forgot have said, ibogaine is doing a reset

> on you even if you do much more drugs before

> it instead of doing less, which I what I thought.


> How are you doing right now a few days out of it?


> Patrick, I really like the Keeping Clean section,

> it keeps growing and you never post any updates ;-)

> What am I saying, that would ruin the charm of

> this place ;-) One thing I would say to you bro

> is that you're printing some of Stanton Peels

> articles, he sues people for doing that. If you

> look at his site there is a 5 paragraph long

> legal warning at the bottom of every page you

> may want to include something else even if I

> really like what he has to say.


> Love the treatment section :-)


> Preston why not stay away from the dils if you

> know they are what lead you to trouble and stick

> with the oxy?


> Peace out

> Curtis >>

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