[ibogaine] third report/booster-congrats
ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Sat Aug 14 06:24:29 EDT 2004
>But the fundimantal difference of this vs. everything I've ever tired in
the past is NO CRAVING WHAT-SO-EVER!<
I thought you'd said you have had a couple of nights at least Mark where you
actually felt like going out to cop a bag or three and had to actually fight
to not do so?
Aren't those cravings? Even if you were successful in not following
through on them?
Love you man. I'm just asking, not accusing or anything at all.
Peace and love,
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To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] third report/booster-congrats
Still without my laptop which is getting really annoying especially LATE at
night when i feel like I'm the only one still up. But no better city in the
world for that than the one that doesn't sleep. Anyway I wanted to let you
all know that there are other success stoires in NYC. I'm still fighting the
good fight. My last dose of meth and last shot of dope was on the 25th of
last month. So thats what... almost 20 days? Wow that feels really good to
say out loud. But the fundimantal difference of this vs. everything I've
ever tired in the past is NO CRAVING WHAT-SO-EVER! Its as if I feel like I
have something inside of me that is working with me or rather taking care of
me. Did that make sense? I literally am terrified of opiates now. However,
for me instead of taking any Valium or any kind of sleep aid but I'm finding
that pot has helped to sooth my stomach and make me comfortable but I know
in my hea! rt of hearts that once I'm feeling 100% I'll take a little break
from that as well. But MY GOD what a difference. I feel like a brand new
Can't wait till the sun goes down. Be in touch soon. - M.
good luck sean . 917-405-3768
o7 at starband.net wrote:
Thanks for the ongoing narrative and congratulations for getting to the
Holodeck for yourself. Regarding bowel management, pain relief, and
recovery of your strength, please don't view these issues as failures in
OTC or prescription pharmacology. I hope Bwiti showed you what the
ancestor team thinks about you donating your vitality to short term
burnouts. Contrary to some attitudes expressed on this list, that ancestor
team cares more about hippie junkies than they usually do about
themselves. That's the point. Even calling ibogaine a drug must bug Bwiti
on whatever personal pride level She/He dwells.
For the bowel comfort, drink a glass of water with 1/2 teaspoon of Epsom
Salts every couple of hours until you get the release you need. Right
after you are up and re-entering, say hours 36-48, use a hot bath soak
with 1 cup! each of Baking Soda and Epsom Salts in it to soak away some of
those kinks and muscle aches. 3 or more of these hot soaks a day for a few
days will help your post ibo and post opiate body do relaxation and less
pain, more easily.
You had asked about being able to smoke weed and manage symptoms with
other drugs before and after this. You can do whatever you want, that
being the heavan and hell of this free-will thang called life. What ibo
brought to the table for me is that seeking fun, comfort, health and
happiness through any drug is like looking through the wrong side of your
binoculars to see things closer up, or pounding in loose nails with your
new laptop. Bwiti wasn't putting down drugs as bad, nor did She put me
down from any moralistic or pious perspective, it was just shown those
wonderful results are not what drugs can provide.
I can't presume anyone else would get the same message from a session with
the ibo team that I d! id, but a similar result has been described by
junkies who I have facilitated with ibo. After where they go and what they
experience with this experience, the routine, habitual self destruction of
their preferred drug is just too boring and predictable, too much of a
waste of time to hold as much of a glamor for them again. Remember when
the phrase, "no thanks, I get high on life" was the straight comeback to
an offered toke, or drink? Well, now I can frame that for me now. Sober,
non-high is both higher and lower than being stoned or "high". I don't
want to get%2
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