[ibogaine] Lettuce Prey
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Mon Aug 9 00:25:10 EDT 2004
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my point has been made. right on superfreak, welcome back to mindvox!
Survival of the most
Shelly add a letter o to your last name and everything will work out,
if that fails stop worrying
about recovery and start worrying about what energy you have resonence
with, the god of
destruction looks to be working for patrick, can't be all bad then can
Patrick! dog aren't you a buddhist priest in addition to whatever it
is that marko and you have
decided is the religion for the ibogaine dealership, are buddhists allowed
to have resonence
much love superfreak
On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:35:28 -0700 "Patrick K.Kroupa" <digital at phantom.com>
>All of this has long answers, short answers, no answers. It doesn't
>really matter. To cop a line from that 12-step thing, "Take what
>find useful and leave the rest."
>Apply to All Reality.
>On Aug 8, 2004, at 3:39 AM, Carla Barnes wrote:
>> I'd still like to know what is the deal with the
>> symbol of chaos? What does it mean? Since nowhere I go
>> online where I look it up agrees with any other
>> definition of it, what does it mean to you Patrick?
>> You started up with it and now it's all over the place
>> so obviously it must mean something to your friends
>> who are painting it and putting it everywhere,
>The Chaos Symbol is sumthin' we've used since roughly the dawn of
> It doesn't come from "chaos magic." It comes from a fucked-up
>fiction writer named Michael Moorcock.
>Moorcock sorta kicked off "New Wave" in science fiction, which
>eventually gave rise to William Gibson and cyberpunk. All of this
>coalesced further when a buncha people who started all this shit,
>up hanging out in the MindVox offices and moving into our building.
>You know ... when we were like 12 you were the shit! And now, you're
>sitting in our office! We've summoned all of you! Fully Fucking
>So we've got Charles Platt writing us into books and articles --
>also drew the original MindVox Celtic Cross/Chaos logos in the early
>90's -- and Michael Moorcock mentioning that, "Oh, by the way, most
>my work was inspired by doing a lot of drugZ!@!." Uhm, well duh.
>The symbol of chaos is basically the wheel of dharma, broken, while
>tripping. The spokes extend beyond the boundaries and keep going.
>What it means to me is liberation, freedom, transcendent states.
>What it means to you, I dunno. You can figure that out ... or not.
>If you're looking for iconography to resonate with, you might try
>instead (here ya go, first hit on Go0gLe):
>Or even this ... gosh, looX a lot like the symBol of (h4o5:
>On Aug 8, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Vector Vector wrote (quoting Peter Carroll):
>> Magic is a force, like electromagnetism, and has no inherent moral
>This is wrong. Energy has resonance, and sentience. It's not plugging
>into an A/C outlet. You cannot touch, rearrange, and affect anything;
>without, in turn, being touched, rearranged, and affected by it.
>Nothing you put out, does its thing and sails off into the event
>horizon. Everything is mirrored, amplified, and reflected right
>Whatever you're resonating with, is alive. It has awareness,
>sentience, and intent. It's a cool idea to figure out what your
>is, or... instead of being elevated by it, you're gonna go down
>Whatever "it" happens to be for you.
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