[ibogaine] On mental health testing

Preston Peet ptpeet at nyc.rr.com
Sun Aug 1 16:44:42 EDT 2004

Jim wrote >As "The Who" would say: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss,
damn it we got fooled again."  Nothing's gonna change.<

And from the article I've pasted below >These are the kinds of people Kerry
hangs out with: the fried-egg guy.<

Have to say I'm still thinking along the same lines as Jim here. And to be
very honest, I'm a little surprised at how many people on both this list and
the DrugWar list are supporting the same new boss again this time around,
without hesitation, because, well, this same new boss is "better" than Bush-
(That's an extremely sad LOL.)
Seriously, how many times are we going to simply roll over and choose the
"lesser" (uhhh, we hope anyway) of two evil guys? Does anyone really believe
that Kerry is going to somehow turn things around and make us all safe and
secure in our homes and bodies from invasion from the forces of evil- the
prohibitionists, of all stripes?
I can't see it, though I'm wishing with all my heart I could.


This is your convention on drugs.

By Matt Taibbi
Remember Super Tuesday? John Kerry was in Washington that day, in a dark,
depressing shopping mall called the Old Post Office Pavilion. Flanked by his
family and about 1200 Washington insiders who had arrived early to formally
kiss his ass, Kerry, mouth all Chiclets, gave a smug acceptance speech and
gleefully cracked the proverbial champagne magnum on the S.S. Foregone
Conclusion, which comes into port in Boston this week.
I was about 15 yards from Kerry during his Super Tuesday speech, just to his
left, in the press section. I was at the stage of my campaign-trail work
where I was actually pretending, in public, to "cover" the campaign so that
the other reporters would not catch on to what was going on in my mind.
After about three weeks on the bus with Kerry, I was in a state of almost
complete mental paralysis. It was almost like a state of amnesia, or the
annihilating early onset of schizophrenic illness, brought on by some deeply
traumatic experience-like watching your father butcher your mother to death,
or catching your wife screaming with pleasure in bed with Hitler.
To this day I can't describe what brought it on, although I'm sure it had
something to do with the campaign. I only remember that I was at Kerry's
Super Tuesday speech in body only. On the outside I was just trying to get
through the motions, while inside I struggled to put the pieces back
together. As Kerry began his speech, I stared at the podium with blank eyes.
And just then, someone behind me to my left tapped me on the shoulder.
I turned around. A short, bald man with maniacal eyes extended his hand,
breathing loudly through his mouth.
"Isn't this great?" he said.
"I guess," I said.
"Bob Weiner," he said.
I shook his hand. "Matt Taibbi," I replied.
He smiled proudly. "I'm with the Office of National Drug Control Policy," he
said. "Well, I used to be, anyway. Used to be the Communications Director. I
worked with Barry McCaffrey!"
"Oh," I said, recoiling a little. "No shit."
"Yeah, no shit!" he said. "What do you do, Matt?"
"I'm working for Rolling Stone."
"Oh," he said. "Good magazine. We did some things with you folks a couple of
years ago."
In the state I was in, it suddenly seemed entirely possible that the
ostensibly countercultural Rolling Stone was in some kind of cooperative,
collusive arrangement with the White House Drug Czar. It later turned out
that Weiner was referring to some RS pro-legalization article that he had
provided dissenting quotes for. But at the time I didn't know this, and the
Orwellian realization that I myself might be indirectly working with the
drug- enforcement apparatus just bounced harmlessly off my flatlined psyche.
"Gosh," I said, "that's nice. The thing is, Bob, I'm not feeling too well
right now..."
"Yeah, it's a good magazine, despite it all," he said, ignoring me. Then he
waved his hand in the direction of the podium. "But you know what's great
about this?"
"No," I said honestly. "What?"
"We're going to have a president with sense again," he said. "This current
guy is a disaster. Right now, all domestic law enforcement goes through
Ashcroft and Ridge. It's all about terrorism now. I mean, the War on Drugs
isn't even a priority!"
"Wow," I said, "that's just self-defeating."
"Thank God for Kerry," he said. "It's going to be like the old days again."
Like the old days again. For all those people who are going to turn on the
tv this week and imagine that what they're seeing at the convention is
nothing more than the Democratic Party's current stated platform-"Harmless
Bullshit for America"-I urge them to consider a few things about the Kerry
campaign. It has a few features that have been commented on very little in
public. For one, it's crawling with narcs.
There is a fiction being perpetuated in the media that the Democratic Party
is "more united than ever," that "the whole party has been energized" by the
mission of defeating George Bush. (I think the reality is that the would-be
dissenters are simply too depressed to argue.) A corollary to this
assumption is the alleged reason for this unity, which is that, apart from
Iraq, there were virtually no differences between any of the candidates who
ran for the nomination in the last year.
I started to notice this in the press after Iowa. A typical example is this
line from a piece by Walter Shapiro of USA Today: "Things might have been
different for Kerry if the Democratic Party was riven by major ideological
cleavages," he wrote. "But once the war in Iraq receded as a litmus-test
issue for Democratic voters, the relatively minor differences among the
candidates on domestic policy were not enough to sway the outcome."
Really? Howard Dean told me in the plainest language possible that he did
not think that nonviolent drug offenders should go to jail. "I mean, if
you're selling heroin in a school zone, that's maybe something you should go
to jail for, but otherwise, it's a medical issue," he said.
Dean explained to me that since most drug laws were state laws, his likely
strategy as president for clearing the prisons would be to provide block
grants to states that develop alternatives to incarceration for nonviolent
drug offenders.
What kind of people were you likely to find on the Dean plane? A lot of
ex-Clinton types, true, but also people like Kurt Schmoke, the former Yale
classmate of Dean's and mayor of Baltimore, who once called the Drug War
"our domestic Vietnam" and was the first major politician in the country to
advocate the decriminalization of drugs.
Who would you find hanging around the Kerry campaign? Forget about people
like Weiner, who just showed up uninvited. One of the constants of the Kerry
plane was a guy named David Morehouse, who is a senior political advisor to
Kerry. Morehouse, like Weiner, is a former ONDCP heavy. He was once the
number-two man in the agency behind Barry McCaffrey. Just a few days after
Super Tuesday, he explained to me with pride that he had been involved with
the planning of many of the ONDCP's most celebrated p.r. campaigns.
"Like the fried-egg thing?" I said.
"Well, yes, the fried-egg thing, and some others," he said.
Morehouse said he left the ONDCP before the plan to plant hidden anti-drug
messages in the scripts of tv shows like Friends and E.R. went into action,
but admitted he had been there during the planning of these programs.
These are the kinds of people Kerry hangs out with: the fried-egg guy.
And how about Kerry's likely replacement for Tom Ridge? Rand Beers, Kerry's
Homeland Security advisor, is one of the most zealous and remorseless narcs
in American history. As undersecretary of state for international drug
enforcement under Clinton, Beers signed off on a defoliating program in
South America in which a substance similar to Agent Orange was sprayed over
would-be coca fields along the Colombian-Ecuadorian border. When an
environmental group filed suit on behalf of Ecuadorian peasants who
claimed-with the support of the Red Cross-that the sprays had caused the
destruction of all crops as well as severe birth defects in humans and
livestock, Beers responded by insinuating that the plaintiffs had ties to al
Qaeda through the Colombian FARC rebels.
But heck, at least he's not George Bush. Right? Isn't that what we're
supposed to be thinking this week? o


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Hadey
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] On mental health testing

Hi Callie,

Did you know that Bush and Kerry are something like 3rd cousins.  I may be
wrong but that is what I heard.  They both attended Yale and are both Skull
and Bonesman.

As "The Who" would say: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, damn it we
got fooled again."  Nothing's gonna change.  There will be no Vietnam type
protest.  You will hovever be able to write to your senator or rep. and
express your opinion and get a form letter thanking you for writing.  They
had the people protesting Kerry in a cage.  Nope, the people will never get
together and make policy like in the Vietnam days.  Big Brother learned a

Your head and heart are in the right place,

  - JIM

CallieMimosa at aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/31/2004 11:30:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
HSLotsof at aol.com writes:
I think that a great deal of concern should be voiced
towards the Bush administration's concept of testing Americans for mental
disorders.  The issue of Bush using antidepressants being set aside.

I am very concerned about the concept of mandatory mental health testing.
I have not worked a lot of psych but the work I have done exposed me to many
Doctors with many ideas and concepts of diagnosing and treating mental
There are some extreme cases of psychosis that must be treated vigorously
but there are also neurosis and other less severe psychosis whose treatments
vary with each individual Doc and patient.
I am curious to see what they plan to do when they decide you have a mental
illness? Will you be branded or tattooed so that everyone will know at a
glance who is sane and who is not (by government definition). Or, will you
be required to be medicated and be able to prove you are indeed following
'their' outlined treatment?
This shit really worries me! I just don't think they will test you and then
not follow through if the results are off the graph.
I for one am very happy that, "Help Is On The Way"  lol!
Callie, a Kerry/Edwards supporter for 2004

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