[ibogaine] Re: morphine

sara sara119 at xs4all.nl
Tue Jun 17 00:25:28 EDT 2003


 With one full dose you get it over a done with.

What about asking you Doctor for Cannabis as a pain medication?

That can be a better alternative to Methadone or oxi. I think.

All the best,


-----Original Message-----
From: HSLotsof at aol.com [mailto:HSLotsof at aol.com] 
Sent: maandag 16 juni 2003 12:05
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re: morphine

In a message dated 6/16/03 1:54:02 PM, bcalabrese at yahoo.com writes:

>I think I said it wrong (bass-ackwards), I don't think
>I will use a full dose for ibo for withdrawal (on
>myself) unless it is for methadone. But, I ain't there
>yet.  I would rather use ibo on my own terms than have
>to take it for addition (in a full dose). I don't mind
>taking the edge off with low doses of ibo, but it just
>does not fee right to me to detox with it - and I
>doubt I would need to - maybe that is the reason, I
>don't need to.  Funny stuff...


You may want to take a full dose of ibogaine for clarity on the 
addiction/dependence issues with a concurrent benefit of modification of
withdrawal signs.  
In my opinion it is virtually impossible to tease out the withdrawal and

anxiety related withdrawal signs.  The issues you raise are important as
of patients who were treated with ibogaine for substance-related
disorders find 
themselves being treated as pain patients. 


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