[ibogaine] The Star Dec. 24 (one day before JAMA)

crownofthorns at hushmail.com crownofthorns at hushmail.com
Tue Jan 21 22:56:49 EST 2003


Bro, your writing is amazing but usually in a different way, this just blew me away. Talk about seeing all sides.

When do you run for office? ;-)

Peace out and let's not have so much negative energy right Brendan? ;-)
Curtis

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:12:14 -0800 "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at phantom.com> wrote:
>On [Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:54:27PM -0800], [brendan22 at hushmail.com] 
>wrote:
>
>| Patrick who is this moron?
>
>Jeff is a consultant who reviews patient safety data for HV.  He 
>has
>absolutely nothing to do with setting the pricing, he is not a
>shareholder, he does not make decisions regarding when and how Deborah's
>data is published or presented.  In short: unloading upon him serves 
>no
>particular purpose; he is not in a position to make changes and 
>cannot
>disclose proprietary information.
>
>The article in the Star had a few minor factual errors, possibly 
>due to
>their fact checking department being on vacation until roughly the 
>heat
>death of the universe.
>
>Other than alla this, he's an addictionologist.  He's a relatively 
>recent
>addition and wuz not around when I dosed, so I dunno what his particular
>theories are 'bout the meaning of life, death, and addikshun.  As 
>far as I
>know he's a big fan of the 12-steps 'cuz that's what worked for 
>him.  He
>appears to honestly believe in what he does.  He has never attempted 
>to
>inflict his paradigms upon me.  He tries to help his clients.  Sometimes
>this works out, sometimes it does not.  If it doesn't, then it's 
>probably
>up to the individual to find something else to do -- presuming they 
>wanna
>get clean.
>
>To sum it up: I dunno Jeff very well, but I have seen him repeatedly
>attempt to help individuals who are broken down n' shit and have 
>no flow
>to pay him.  While people have a complex series of reasons for any 
>given
>thing they do, many who work with addiction are primarily driven 
>by
>emotional needs.  Ascribing the motivation for any given person's 
>actions
>to solely altruism or greed, would tend to be wrong in either case.
>
>Everybody is working out their own shit in different ways.
>
>| I don't even need to ask that question because I know what the 
>answer
>| will be. Nothing. 
>
>Okay, here, my reply: 
>
>http://www.phantom.com/~digital
>




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