If it walks like a duck.... RE: [ibogaine] Philip K Dick spectrum - Physics of the Mysterious

GanjaCat ganjacat at ganjacat.net
Tue Dec 2 05:13:16 EST 2003

Hi Martine,
I have to admit that I'm enough of an anorak (English expression) to
have some familiarity with some of the stuff talked about in the posted
article -
The quantum-consciousness work of Roger Penrose I find particularly
and have read quite a lot of PKD sci-fi too.
But I too am intensely uncomfortable with the 'overall direction' that
this paradigm takes. I can't really put my finger on it, but as you say
it smacks of pseudo-elitism.
Like you, I am in favour of seeing what changes if the dude takes Iboga
But there again, remember I'm developing into somewhat of a hard-liner -

If pushed I would stand for Ibo not just being legal or accepted, but
(Exits whistling "Who's afraid of the big bad wolf".)
-----Original Message-----
From: Martine Docin-Julien [mailto:jardin.dj at free.fr] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:25 AM
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Philip K Dick spectrum - Physics of the
Hello, I'd like to react for this post "Physic of the Mysterious" cause
I don't get it clear enough, maybe due to the time I need to digest the
whole message sent.
As for myself, I first felt pretty interested on sunday, and thought "
At last someone can explain simply things about physic and so on ", but
today, the day after, I'm not so sure I'll will get more knowledge, even
if for the moment, I've only " overviewed" the text : I feel
Thus being said, I'm not at all able to talk about the scientific
theories or researches presented.
I've surfed on the site related "cassiopaea.org" and I got the same
uncomfortable feeling, first interest and then some kind of "weight"
And again, I'm not talking about scientific stuff.
The job done seems considerable, but I felt shocked after a glance I had
on some of the theories expressed on two supposed kinds of human beings
First human beings serving as organic portals, taking energy from
others, being considered as " having no souls" and secondly others
considered as having a soul and thus " able to evoluate further ".
I really don't like it. Again some kind of inferior beings and superior
ones ? Again ? And that theory coming from sources that the common
reader cannot check ?
The worst for me is that the theory speaks of mixed kind of humans, it
means that in the same family, one may have first kind and second kind
of human beings, is this a theory supposed to create the harmony, the
respect, the openess I'm longing for ? " Half of the humanity taking
energy from the other half".
I feel sadness. But I'm perhaps only one portal, not a being supposed to
evoluate soon, and I've to wait for my turn in the big evolution.
Does the writer of this text have " eaten the wood " as the Bwitis say,
did he experimented Iboga ?
I'm longing for reactions of readers of that list, really.
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