[ibogaine] Eric, whomever, if you do decide to read this through, have 10...

Brett Calabrese bcalabrese at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 16 15:42:38 EDT 2002

--- NeuroSkull at aol.com wrote:
> Brett,
> You and I are talking about two different Jesus's. 
> The Jesus I preach is the 
> Jesus of the Bible.   The Jesus of the Bible is not
> tolerant of other 
> religions.  The Jesus of the Bible said:
> "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes
> to the Father except 
> through Me."  (John 14:6)

Funny how everyone takes the bible to mean something
different. And then there was the "editing" but we
won't talk about things like reincarnation,
Constantine the Great removed that in 325 AD, shhhhh.

> No doubt, He would be viewed as an intolerant bigot
> in the eyes of today's 
> society.  The God of the Bible is adamant when it
> comes to saving men's souls 
> that there is only ONE way to be saved, ONE path
> that leads to salvation.  
> For me to condone or preach any other would be a
> tremendous affront to a Holy 
> and Righteous God who gave His only Son so that we
> might be saved.  In fact, 

Personally I don't think GOD gives a shit, might even
be "up there" laughing and saying "what are they

> if I preached any other way, I would be calling the
> Jesus that I believe in a 
> liar.  For the Jesus I believe in has said that He
> is the only way.

Then have at it, go for it but you have NO CLUE what
my beliefs are, just that they are not yours and
therefore wrong.

> If I don't stand up for what I believe is
> righteousness (that being the 

So, go find someone who is challenging your beliefs
and go after them, that is what everyone should do,
hunt down everyone that doesn't believe the same way
they do and try to convert them, TELL THEM. I didn't
challenge your beliefs, you threw them in my face and
I threw them back with comments.

> Christ of the Bible) then what a hypocrite I would
> be.  If I truly believe 

Let me guess, a bigger one than you are now?

> that Jesus is the only way to eternal life in
> Heaven, why would I stand idle 
> and mute as I watch others who don't know Jesus

I stand idle and watch people destroy their lives all
the time or were the people on this list in particular
distress that it requires being told they are less
than you are? And who said I didn't know Jesus? What I
don't want to know is the BS people like you try to
feed me with a JC label on it.

> march off down a path that I 
> know and believe leads them to hell?  I can't in
> good conscience do that.  So 
> I speak up for Christ.  When I see someone standing
> at a fork in the road, 

And if they say "sorry, I don't do JC" then they are
not worthy of saving, don't send them to an NA meeting
or try ibogaine, or do Yoga or Buddhism or ZEN or kite
flying. Is ibogaine the work of the Devil, I am sure
there are good Christians who think it is, in fact
about anyone you ask that doesn't know about ibogaine
(except that it were illegal) would tell you it is bad
- before they investigated it, called contempt before
investigation. I went to "your" bible studies to be
open minded, learn new things (ha!), exchange ideas
(double HA!).

> one way is broad and tolerant leading to hell, the
> other narrow, intolerant 
> and leading to heaven.   Then I say just as Jesus
> did:
> "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and
> broad is the way that 
> leads to destruction, and there are many who go in
> by it. Because narrow is 
> the gate and difficult is the way which leads to
> life, and there are few who 
> find it".

See, I understand that perfectly but doubt it is
anything close to your understanding.

> Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are
> saved?'' And He said to 
> them,  "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for
> many, I say to you, will 
> seek to enter and will not be able.
> Jesus is "The Gate".
> Now as for Buddhist chanting, meditation etc.  (This
> could be a very long 
> story, but I'm not going to get into the entire
> details here).  You weren't 
> there the night a friend of my family became
> possessed by an evil spirit by 
> chanting to Buddha.  You weren't there when she
> transformed into a growling 
> animal.  You weren't there when she began to speak
> English, a language she 
> did not know how to speak prior to this night.
> (She's from Thailand).  You 
> weren't there when she became violent, foaming at
> the mouth, cursing and 
> swearing at the mention of the name Jesus.  You
> weren't there when she became 
> rigid and pounded her head repeatedly into the
> cement, bloody, writhing, the 
> thing within her screaming out for Buddha to save it
> from Jesus.  You weren't 
> there, I was.  

So believe in whatever the fuck you want to believe
in, I don't care, it works for you, have at it. I have
my "stories" too, you care less about them than I do
of yours, yours is a one way street, your way and no
other way.

> Stay away from these heathen religions.  Yes, you

Then you had better stay away from me, evil might
spill upon you.

> may find "god".  You may 
> even become "spirit filled".  But it won't be the
> God of all creation that 
> you find, and it won't be His Holy Spirit that fills
> you.

Uh huh, it will be the fake god, the every god but
your god, not your exclusive god, for that I need to
join your club.

> Turn to Jesus, the one true way to the one true God.

How is this?

Go f..k yourself you obnoxious, arrogant bigot. That
is my effort at "spreading the word", to see people at
the Y in the road, on that path and letting them know
it is the path to hell... Nothing personal, you just
don't believe as I believe so therefore you are
unenlightened and I shouldn't expect any more from an
ignorant non-believer as you - sound nice doesn't it?
It is people like you who fuck up this place we call
earth, who spread fear and hate and it isn't because
you are Christian, it is because you are you. By the
way, just spoke to GOD again, Kev is right, you will
meet up with us (when you grow up) down the road.

So, now every time you "preach" to me, I will go find
a good Christian board and go "Preach" to them, maybe
email their reaction to you, why should I react any
differently. Hummm, maybe I can plant a few "seeds"...
A little hedonism, some devil worship, maybe some
Muslum literature... I know (OH NO!) I will tell them
about YOGA, you got your meditation, your Sanscrit
thanks to Shiva and that funny Oooooohhhhhmmmmm noise
they make, real ominous.


> Neuroskull
> In a message dated 7/16/2002 6:16:03 AM Pacific
> Daylight Time, 
> bcalabrese at yahoo.com writes:
> > Excuse me!
> > 
> > --- NeuroSkull at aol.com wrote:
> > > I will add, stay away from Buddhism and other
> such
> > > heathen religions.  
> > 
> > Just goes to show how ignorant, prejudice and
> bigoted
> > some "good Christians" can be.
> > 
> > So, tell me (bigot), what do you know (besides
> > nothing) about these "other such heathen
> religions"?
> > The work of the devil, huh? Yeah, that Dali Lama,
> a
> > real heathen for sure... definitely an evil one.
> > 
> > > Instead seek the true God through a relationship
> > > with Jesus Christ.  Not 
> > 
> > Then how come you have no seem to have no clue
> about
> > what Jesus was about? The love, the acceptance,
> > tolerance, forgot that part? What is this honor
> thy
> > neighbor as long as he believe what you tell him
> to
> > believe in?
> > 
> > > religion, relationship.  For more information. 
> > > Visit here:  
> > > http://www.geocities.com/neuroskull/gift.html
> > 
> > Not in this lifetime. Been there, done that, gave
> it a
> > chance, been to bible study and don't like hateful
> > people, people spreading fear and mistrust,
> gossip,
> > hate, anger.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Neuroskull
> > > (Have seen first hand those that have become
> > > possessed by evil spirits due to 
> > > buddhist meditation & chanting).
> > 
> > Ah, but the millions of people who have been
> killed by
> > good Christians "in the name of GOD", that is OK
> but
> > meditation and chanting is evil, got it.
> > 
> > Maybe if we all accepted each other and our
> beliefs,
> > respected each other and didn't pull this "my
> religion
> > is better than your religion" crap people would
> get
> > along better, ya think? So, the YOGA I do is evil
> huh,
> > you know about that Shiva OR that I was born
> Jewish,
> > that must be bad too since we chant and don't pray
> to
> > your JC, I even do some Jewish Mysticism
> (Kabbala),
> > light insense, do Reiki - or am I taking JC's job
> by
> > healing (with the hands), must be the work of the
> > devil (been told that by good Christians), right?
> > Seems that to you Love is evil.
> > 
> > I actually have nothing wrong with JC or any
> belief of
> > love and truth, I do have a problem with people
> who
> > tell me they have the one true belief and the way
> put
> > other people down.
> > 
> > Have fun with your fear based beliefs (which IMO
> has
> > nothing to do with JC), watch out GOD is going to
> get
> > you, he is watching your every move, the devil is
> > waiting too, just for you so be careful, one slip
> and
> > it hell for sure.
> > 
> > Brett
> > 

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