[ibogaine] Eric, whomever, if you do decide to read this thro ugh, have 10...

Andria Efthimiou-Mordaunt AndriaEM at drugscope.org.uk
Tue Jul 16 14:44:01 EDT 2002

Why would anyone want ETERNAL life?

Andria E-Mordaunt 
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-----Original Message-----
From: NeuroSkull at aol.com [mailto:NeuroSkull at aol.com]
Sent: 16 July 2002 19:15
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Eric, whomever, if you do decide to read this
through, have 10...


You and I are talking about two different Jesus's.  The Jesus I preach is
the Jesus of the Bible.   The Jesus of the Bible is not tolerant of other
religions.  The Jesus of the Bible said: 

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through Me."  (John 14:6) 

No doubt, He would be viewed as an intolerant bigot in the eyes of today's
society.  The God of the Bible is adamant when it comes to saving men's
souls that there is only ONE way to be saved, ONE path that leads to
salvation.  For me to condone or preach any other would be a tremendous
affront to a Holy and Righteous God who gave His only Son so that we might
be saved.  In fact, if I preached any other way, I would be calling the
Jesus that I believe in a liar.  For the Jesus I believe in has said that He
is the only way. 

If I don't stand up for what I believe is righteousness (that being the
Christ of the Bible) then what a hypocrite I would be.  If I truly believe
that Jesus is the only way to eternal life in Heaven, why would I stand idle
and mute as I watch others who don't know Jesus march off down a path that I
know and believe leads them to hell?  I can't in good conscience do that.
So I speak up for Christ.  When I see someone standing at a fork in the
road, one way is broad and tolerant leading to hell, the other narrow,
intolerant and leading to heaven.   Then I say just as Jesus did: 

"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that
leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is
the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who
find it". 

Then one said to Him, "Lord, are there few who are saved?'' And He said to
them,  "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you,
will seek to enter and will not be able. 

Jesus is "The Gate". 

Now as for Buddhist chanting, meditation etc.  (This could be a very long
story, but I'm not going to get into the entire details here).  You weren't
there the night a friend of my family became possessed by an evil spirit by
chanting to Buddha.  You weren't there when she transformed into a growling
animal.  You weren't there when she began to speak English, a language she
did not know how to speak prior to this night. (She's from Thailand).  You
weren't there when she became violent, foaming at the mouth, cursing and
swearing at the mention of the name Jesus.  You weren't there when she
became rigid and pounded her head repeatedly into the cement, bloody,
writhing, the thing within her screaming out for Buddha to save it from
Jesus.  You weren't there, I was.   

Stay away from these heathen religions.  Yes, you may find "god".  You may
even become "spirit filled".  But it won't be the God of all creation that
you find, and it won't be His Holy Spirit that fills you. 

Turn to Jesus, the one true way to the one true God. 


In a message dated 7/16/2002 6:16:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bcalabrese at yahoo.com writes: 

Excuse me! 

--- NeuroSkull at aol.com wrote: 
> I will add, stay away from Buddhism and other such 
> heathen religions.   

Just goes to show how ignorant, prejudice and bigoted 
some "good Christians" can be. 

So, tell me (bigot), what do you know (besides 
nothing) about these "other such heathen religions"? 
The work of the devil, huh? Yeah, that Dali Lama, a 
real heathen for sure... definitely an evil one. 

> Instead seek the true God through a relationship 
> with Jesus Christ.  Not 

Then how come you have no seem to have no clue about 
what Jesus was about? The love, the acceptance, 
tolerance, forgot that part? What is this honor thy 
neighbor as long as he believe what you tell him to 
believe in? 

> religion, relationship.  For more information. 
> Visit here:   
> http://www.geocities.com/neuroskull/gift.html 

Not in this lifetime. Been there, done that, gave it a 
chance, been to bible study and don't like hateful 
people, people spreading fear and mistrust, gossip, 
hate, anger. 

> Neuroskull 
> (Have seen first hand those that have become 
> possessed by evil spirits due to 
> buddhist meditation & chanting). 

Ah, but the millions of people who have been killed by 
good Christians "in the name of GOD", that is OK but 
meditation and chanting is evil, got it. 

Maybe if we all accepted each other and our beliefs, 
respected each other and didn't pull this "my religion 
is better than your religion" crap people would get 
along better, ya think? So, the YOGA I do is evil huh, 
you know about that Shiva OR that I was born Jewish, 
that must be bad too since we chant and don't pray to 
your JC, I even do some Jewish Mysticism (Kabbala), 
light insense, do Reiki - or am I taking JC's job by 
healing (with the hands), must be the work of the 
devil (been told that by good Christians), right? 
Seems that to you Love is evil. 

I actually have nothing wrong with JC or any belief of 
love and truth, I do have a problem with people who 
tell me they have the one true belief and the way put 
other people down. 

Have fun with your fear based beliefs (which IMO has 
nothing to do with JC), watch out GOD is going to get 
you, he is watching your every move, the devil is 
waiting too, just for you so be careful, one slip and 
it hell for sure. 


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