[ibogaine] cocaine computer operations

Patrick K. Kroupa digital at mindvox.com
Tue Jul 9 23:36:23 EDT 2002

On [Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:34:27PM -0400], [HSLotsof at aol.com] wrote:

| It's all in jest Preston.  But, with the cocaine cartels having their IT 
| specialists, if the mini sub carrying a massive shipment of ibogaine did 
| evade the dea could mindvox be far behind.  It seems I have to blame someone 
| and Patrick is well, just there!

Look, it wasn't me.  I wasn't even on planet earth at the time.  Do you
have any PROOF...?  ...is it good?  ...do you accept bribes?

| To a great extent profit potential and ibogaine have missed each other all 
| over the map.  But, there is still the romance, the adventure and the good 
| that comes out of it.  How do those Stone's lyrics go?  You can't always get 
| what you want but, sometimes if you try real hard...you can get what you 
| need.  Now what would that be?

Would all of you crazy people please stop!  This is a *serious* list that
deals with drug addiction, misery, strife, blood, sweat, tears, pain,
suicide, genocide, plus, also, depression.  There is entirely too much
levity here.  Humor is a clear violation of the USA Patriot Act!  

oh hey, p.s., Libertarian News!!!  And yes, we are starting the drugwar
list, and will move all of this sideways tomorrow.

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   July 9, 2002
   Vol. 7, No. 12
   Circulation: 50,130 in 100 countries

   Published by the Advocates for Self-Government.
   Created and edited by Paul Schmidt, mailto:paul at self-gov.org
   Co-edited by James W. Harris, mailto:james at self-gov.org

   by James W. Harris

Major U.S. Religious Body Calls for End to Drug War

   The General Assembly of the Unitarian Universalists Association
   (UUA) -- representing more than 1,000 congregations throughout the
   United States -- has passed a Statement of Conscience calling for
   "Alternatives to the War on Drugs."

   The UUA declared "We do not believe that drug use should be
   considered criminal behavior." They further declared that "the
   consequences of the current drug war are cruel and
   counterproductive," and called for "alternatives that regard the
   reduction of harm as the appropriate standard by which to assess
   drug policies."

    The declaration is the strongest anti-Drug War statement thus far
   by any major U.S. religious denomination. And the Unitarian
   Universalists say they plan to encourage other people of faith to
   adopt similar views.

   "As Unitarian Universalists, we are called by our religious values
   to speak out against misguided policies," said the Rev. William
   Sinkford, president of the Unitarian Universalist Association. "The
   so-called 'War on Drugs' is creating violence, endangering children,
   clogging the criminal justice system, eroding civil liberties, and
   disproportionately punishing people of color. It's time for a

   If adapted, the UUA's proposals would be a major step toward ending
   the War on Drugs. Key points of the UUA's statement include:

   * "Establish a legal, regulated, and taxed market for marijuana.
   Treat marijuana as we treat alcohol."

   * "Remove criminal penalties for possession and use of currently
   illegal drugs, with drug abusers subject to arrest and imprisonment
   only if they commit an actual crime (e.g., assault, burglary,
   impaired driving, vandalism)."

   * "Drug use, drug abuse, and drug addiction are distinct from one
   another. Using a drug does not necessarily mean abusing the drug,
   much less addiction to it. Drug abuse issues are essentially matters
   for medical attention. We do not believe that drug use should be
   considered criminal behavior."

   * "Make all drugs legally available with a prescription by a
   licensed physician, subject to professional oversight. End the
   practice of punishing an individual for obtaining, possessing, or
   using an otherwise illegal substance to treat a medical condition,"
   and allow "medically administered drug maintenance" as a treatment
   option for drug addiction.

   "We are hopeful that this powerful Statement will pave the way for
   other denominations to join the movement for more just and
   compassionate drug policies," said Charles Thomas, executive
   director of Unitarian Universalists for Drug Policy Reform, the
   denomination affiliate that facilitated the study and development of
   the Statement of Conscience.

   The text of the full UUA Statement of Conscience on the Drug War is
   at www.uudpr.org .

   (Source: UUA press release:
   http://www.uua.org/news/2002/020627_drugreform.html )

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FBI Is Watching What You Read

   Be careful what books you check out at the library, or purchase from

   The FBI may be watching.

   Under sweeping new anti-terrorist laws, the FBI is currently
   visiting public libraries and secretly tracking the reading habits
   of people it allegedly considers potentially dangerous.

   The draconian post-Sept. 11 USA Patriot Act anti-terrorist bill
   gives the FBI authority to obtain library and bookstore records --
   and many other documents --  in the course of broadly-defined
   terrorist-related investigations. In practice, the FBI now has the
   legal power to check on millions of people -- and maybe just about

   The creepy procedure is shrouded in secrecy. In order to survey
   someone's reading habits, the FBI must get a search warrant. But
   it's not your Founding Fathers' search warrant -- the FBI doesn't
   have to show that any evidence of criminal activity is likely to be
   found or that the individual being investigated is involved in
   terrorism or spying.

   Furthermore, as a San Francisco Chronicle article has noted, "The
   court that authorizes the searches meets in secret; the search
   warrants carried by the agents cannot mention the underlying
   investigation; and librarians and booksellers can be prosecuted for
   revealing an FBI visit to anyone, including the patron whose records
   were seized. Nearly everything about the procedure is secret.

   "The only limitation in the law is that the investigation can't be
   entirely based -- though it can be partly based -- on activities
   protected by the First Amendment, such as speech or political
   organizing. For example, campus radicals, the subject of FBI
   surveillance in the past, could be targeted if the government
   alleged they had a connection to terrorism or espionage."

   And a lot of libraries are apparently being watched. A University of
   Illinois survey in early 2002 found that  8.3 percent of libraries
   surveyed had been asked by federal or local law enforcement officers
   for information about patrons, allegedly related to Sept. 11.

   The American Library Association, appalled by the law but knowing
   librarians are subject to prosecution if they refuse to cooperate,
   is suggesting that librarians "avoid creating unnecessary records"
   and keep information that identifies patrons only "when necessary
   for the efficient operation of the library."

   Ann Brick, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer, calls the new
   library spy law "a stunning assault on . . . First Amendment
   freedoms" that would seem to violate Constitutional protections from
   unreasonable searches.

   The expansion of the FBI's power to spy on citizens in such a broad
   and unaccountable manner is a return to past practices that were
   outlawed in the 70's, when systematic and unconstitutional abuses of
   such powers were exposed.

   Incidentally, Business Week magazine recently featured an excellent
   article on why the FBI was shackled in the `70's -- and why we
   should be deeply concerned about today's dramatic new FBI powers:
   (http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2002/tc20020627_3227.htm )

   (Source: San Francisco Chronicle / Detroit Free Press story:
   http://www.freep.com/news/nw/probe25_20020625.htm )

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