[ibogaine] Re: Karina and methadeone kicking
AndriaEM at drugscope.org.uk
Wed Aug 7 07:13:54 EDT 2002
Good point; very good actually, and one that many people extol. You can't
give up all your protections at once.. well, I don't think it;s a good idea
UNLESS of course, u replace them immediately
But what if, like me your lungs are constantly breaking into infections, and
almost caving in completely!?
Thanx 2 y'all 4 discusiing smoking; I'm much more vulnerable with this habit
than I think I ever was shooting dope...(not that that had too many positive
But I would like to say that it is very sunny in London 2day, and I am at
peace with my computer
From: Beth Lee-Herbert [mailto:gaia_love420 at hotmail.com]
Sent: 06 August 2002 21:50
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re: Karina and methadeone kicking
the thing about cigs is that at least they take a long time to kill you,
other things aren't so patient for your soul. i was dopesick at my parents
house and my sister said to me quite cheerfully, 'so when are you going to
quit smoking' fucking one thing at a time. cigs are so pointless, you
smoke to continue the habit. just for today, i'm satisfied being clean.
one vice at a time!
>From: "Patrick K. Kroupa"
>Reply-To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>Subject: Re: [ibogaine] Re: Karina and methadeone kicking
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:34:56 -0400
>On [Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 11:37:24AM -0700], [Brett Calabrese] wrote:
>| I am glad to see you reached the denial stage of your
>| nicotine addiction.
>Oh absolutely. Unfortunately, being FAMILIAR with addiction, I really,
>strongly, highly suspect, I will take no action whatsoever until the day I
>go to the gym and discover I can't breath, or my heart hurts... At which
>point I will prolly re-evaluate my choice to keep smoking and just find
>something else to do.
>| "> I'm gonna go light a cigarette now"
>| I know the feeling, can't imagine myself doing it but
>| it wouldn't take much (like 1 cigarette) to change
>| that real fast. Just like real drugs...
>Yeah, I have vague plans to stop smoking the next time I dose with
>ibogaine; cuz I mean, for me, every time I dose I cannot smoke. I light a
>cigarette afterwards and literally vomit. I have to WORK BACK UP using
>menthols, half a cigarette at a time.
>Being real I am forced to conclude that I really don't care, because I
>still haven't exited the Indestructable stage of life, and it hasn't had
>any negative effect on me. Therefore, I just don't care enough to exert
>the effort required to tune that headchange.
>Look I LIKE smoking. It makes me happy. Really, it does. I think, I'm
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